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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 09:48 AM
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"We're f!cked."
This could be one of those unexpected events that forever changes the way the world perceives an issue. Iraq's Prime Minister agrees with Obama, and there's no wiggle room or fudge factor. This puts John McCain in an extremely precarious spot: what's left to argue? to argue against Maliki would be to predicate that Iraqi sovereignty at this point means nothing. Obviously, our national interests aren't equivalent to Iraq's, but... Malik isn't listening to the generals on the ground...but the "hasn't been to Iraq" line doesn't work here.

So how will the McCain campaign respond?

(Via e-mail, a prominent Republican strategist who occasionally provides advice to the McCain campaign said, simply, "We're fucked." No response yet from the McCain campaign, although here's what McCain said the last time Maliki mentioned withdrawal: "Since we are succeeding, then I am convinced, as I have said before, we can withdraw and withdraw with honor, not according to a set timetable. And I’m confident that is what Prime Minister Maliki is talking about, since he has told me that for many meetings we’'ve had."

Will Maliki retract his words?
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/07/almalikis_announcement_a_big_d.php

McCain camp reacts to Maliki’s call for withdrawal: Voters don’t care what Iraqi leaders say.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/19/mccain-camp-reacts-to-malikis-call-for-withdrawal-voters-dont-care-about-iraqi-leaders/

In response to Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s clear statement in support of a 16-month redeployment from Iraq, a senior McCain official tells Marc Ambinder “oters care about military, not about Iraqi leaders.” A “prominent Republican strategist” who occasionally provides advice to the McCain campaign said more candidly, “We’re f*cked.” Recall, this is what McCain said in 2004:

QUESTION: Let me give you a hypothetical, senator. What would or should we do if, in the post-June 30th period, a so-called sovereign Iraqi government asks us to leave, even if we are unhappy about the security situation there? I understand it’s a hypothetical, but it’s at least possible.

McCAIN: Well, if that scenario evolves, then I think it’s obvious that we would have to leave because — if it was an elected government of Iraq — and we’ve been asked to leave other places in the world. If it were an extremist government, then I think we would have other challenges, but I don’t see how we could stay when our whole emphasis and policy has been based on turning the Iraqi government over to the Iraqi people.
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 10:07 AM
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1. McCain married the war in Iraq
Edited on Mon Jul-21-08 10:09 AM by JohnnyRingo
If he didn't quite marry it, he at least proposed in a very public way, like the guy who hires an airplane to fly a banner over a packed stadium. Now he runs the embarassing risk of being jilted by his beloved in front of all America.

I know he's never been one to respect commitment, but changing position now will make him appear aloof and unaware of the situation there. Perhaps he can backtrack that his true love really lies in Afghanistan.
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