Help needed. Inlaws need a reason to vote Dem...

Just got back from visiting my inlaws in NM. Pretty hard-core low information republicans. Mom thought that Michelle actually said "whitey" etc.
Needless to say, much education needed here. I snuck in as much as I could during the visit.

Here is the challenge. They will not read more than a paragraph or so to clarify their opinions on McAnus or Obama.

Can anyone link to or provide a clear (bullet points?) and well-cited list of pros (Obama) and cons (McAnus)? I think they would swing Dem if given the right ammo- and they were in that last 23% for GW, and will only now admit he sucks!

is there a regional anger to take advantage of?
mccain says arizona smells better? something like that?mccain says NM women are hairy?

if they are low info voters then you just have to say something outrageous and wait a week and repeat it
usually they will say "i heard someone talking about that" without remembering it was you
then you agree with yourself and second your own opinion

i ran through all the lovely sound bites mccain has offered about women, etc- but i think they need charts and graphs or something that looks very factual...

get a couple of obama speeches on a dvd and give them over
he is very inspirational as a speaker

after 4 years of McBush. We'll have borrowed trillions more for the Iraq Money Pit, thousands more lives will be lost, gas will be $10.00 a gallon, etc.

they just need a little more info, and i think they could (privately at least) go obama...

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the trollop stuff made her stop and think a little-

Have they gone grocery shopping lately?

though it's good demogoguery, if you can pin the tail on the Republicans.

Bush and his cohorts told the nation the war would be short, cost us little if anything and would be paid for by Iraq's oil revenues. We were going to be seen as liberators and in gratitude the Iraqi's would gladly pay us Tuesday for their freedom today. How's that working out? What happened to the WMD's we went in there for in the first place?

The price of a barrel of oil is now four times what it was before the war. It's not demagoguery but simple common sense. Two oil men in the White House, an unnecessary war and in less than 8 years we get unprecedented price increases in the price of a barrel of oil.

To dismiss this and say Obama can't do anything about it misses the point altogether. We've been manipulated, lied to and ripped off and the Republican party is the scam artist's behind it.

In the coming years, what we're facing are geological limits to the supply of cheap oil and natural gas.

That's just a fact-

On the other hand, Bush & the far right's (including the DINO'S) deregulation and military agenda's have only made the situation that much worse- and blame needs to be squarely placed on "them that's in charge." Finding persuasive and emotionally resonant ways to do that is what politics is all about.

Tell your inlaws to step back for a moment and think in broad terms; not just party lines, not just candidate personalities, not just issues here at home .... bigger. Global issues, foreign relations, issues that will have profound implications on humanity as we know it today.

This is what I told a friend yesterday when they asked me why I support Obama:

I had the pleasrue of hearing JFK's speeches live when they happened. As wonderful as they were at the time, I believe they are a footnote compared to what Obama delivered thus far in his short political career and has yet to deliver. This is a man who is a teacher as well as an inspirer. This is a man who has a clear grasp of history and a firm grip on the real issues of the global society we live in today. This is a guy who is not afraid to challenge us at a time we need to be both inspired and challenged. After seeing probably a dozen of his bigger speeches, I am just blown away by the ease by which this man sets the tone of the conversation, pinpoints the root of the issue with laser-like precision, and sets us straight.

I have rock solid Republican friends who have told me that Obama's speech in Berlin yesterday brought them to tears. This man is a national treasure and if we don't manage to elect him in November, we will have truely missed the boat at a time the boat, our collective boat, is taking on water. He's not just what we need right now as a leader .......he's an absolute necessity.

In human history, very few times and very few people rise up from nowhere to represent "we the people" and make a difference for the betterment of the common man. In a world hungry for a CHANGE, Obama defies all odds, discrediting the corrupt career professional politicians & the profiteers of the military industrial complex, while proving to the ordinary man that there's a better alternatives to fear, war, death and destruction.

Look at that international audience he spoke to yesterday .... look at their faces, their eyes. Better yet, look at how they respond to him .... they get him! They understand what Obama represents not just for our little country, but to the world.

It wasn't long ago Germans were burning the US flag in Europe and everytime Bush visited, there have been massive angy demonstrations, effigies burning in the streets, and Europeans depicting our country as the aggressive monsters from the West led by a ruthless Napolean.

Yesterday was amazing. I looked around and saw people, Germans, waiving our flag proudly and totally moved and inspired by the hope that Obama brought to them. After listening to him, given his rare quality of charisma, character, and inspiring oration, is there really any wonder the man is being received as a new Messiah, every where in the world?

Yesterday, the world was watching us to see if we had someone that will put us back at the top to be the true world leader who sets the tone for others to follow ..... guess what?

OBAMA DELIVERED ....


Yesterday was Obama's "HOME RUN" on the world stage.

Dear Lord.

:banghead:

try keeping civil through a weeklong visit! lol

Unfortunately, there is a segment of the population who is so ignorant from 20 years of hate radio & Fox News that they cannot be recovered. On the upside, as Darwin showed, they and their ilk will become extinct soon, and the world will be a better place for their absence.

Nice bubble they live in.

http://therealmccain.com/

So many to choose from

the white house. isn't it about time? have we ever needed one more?

Don't use partisan crap about his age, temperment, 100 year war, how he treats women or that he is the same as Bush. Those things are nothing but opinions and words taken out of context and will do nothing but cause them to NOT want to listen.
For quick, no nonsense bullet type stuff, go to ontheissues.com and print out BOTH candidates record of voting and let them see and think for themselves.
Despite the rhetoric on here, all who disagree are not stupid or ignorant, and presenting them with FACTS may show them something they were not aware of. This way, you are guiding them towards Obama without causing tension, which is much more effective.

Do they believe it is a "disgrace"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugN8Rn5baqM

McCain is basically ready to get rid of their SS.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6539276&mesg_id=6539690

;)

Thanks to the DU Activist Corps. :patriot:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=106&topic_id=32240&mesg_id=32240

Good luck!

THANK YOU ALL!

I think the 59% hispanic majority in NM is going to change the NM dynamics that the Pubs have had for so long. Should be an eye opener for any leftover hard-core, uninformed voter. BO is carrying hispanics by a large margin.

I understand where your at. These are the people who only know enough to make horrible generalizations on politics. These are the people that will think, "Why is Obama campaigning overseas", not realizing (or remembering) that McCain visited 3 countries just a couple weeks ago. They will play on the sound bites and probably haven't listened to an entire political speech in years if at all.

I haven't yet found the perfect weapon to combat their lack of knowledge but for the most part I stick with simple explanations or clarifications on various positions.

Here in Texas I've found a number of people vote basically on one or two issues. Typically the Right to choose and legalized gay marriage. Unfortunately on these issues the Republican party has been able to alter the truth of these issues into 2 factions.

Instead of the right to choose many people view Democrats as Pro-Abortion. To combat this view I simply explain my own personal view on the issue. I explain to them that I do not support abortion. However I do not feel it is my job to make that decision for someone else. I've come to realize that most people who are "pro-life" have the same view. They personally wouldn't choose to have an abortion but also feel that the government doesn't have a right to invade our private lives and make the decisions for us.

I use the same simplicity and logic to combat the gay marriage issue. I explain that at one time there were those who wanted laws against bi-racial marriages. Again I state that the Governments job is to not interfere with our personal lives.

There are issues which aren't so simple to explain. Like why the price of gas is expected to drop under a Democratic lead administration. First of all you must explain the makeup of the price of oil. Explain that about 21% of the cost of gas goes to taxes. Secondly the price of oil is basically determined by speculators or investors who essentially predict the cost of oil in the future. Explain the rise of the cost of gas when we bombed Iraq under GHWB, and lead into a decline in the US presence in the area is certain to lower the speculation on the price of oil.

You must clarify Obama's position on a GREEN economy, explain his plan will create new blue collar jobs while leading us away from foreign purchased oil. Compare that to McCain's position to expand off shore drilling and building new refineries.

It's important to remember that you can't speak above their intellectual level, but you also must establish yourself as more knowledgeable on the issues.

I in no way intend to suggest your inlaws (or other Republicans)are unintelligent, just either uninformed or more likely mis-informed.

- the $20 Billion per month we are sending in taxpayers $$ to Iraq is needed to create jobs and fix roads/bridges/levees/dams here.

- McCain wants to not only keep sending those tax dollars to Iraq, he wants to spends billions more in a war we can't afford with Iran

- Obama wants to invest in jobs here in the U.S. in solar and wind that will put Americans back to work and make us less reliant on troublesome areas in the middle east.

- McCain wants to drill more - keeping us all reliant on oil - even though it will run out soon- so we fight with rich, rich China over the few scraps that are left, instead of spending our money on to a better energy source. We moved on from wood, coal, and gas as our main energy source, now its time to move on from oil.

- Obama will make the billionaires pay taxes again, so he can decrease the tax burden on those of us who aren't rich.

- McCain moans about how social programs are killing our budgets, yet makes over $240,000 from Social Security and disability and his public servant salary.

- Obama wants to get a national healthcare program going, so our companies can compete again against other nations where industry doesn't have this burden because healthcare is free for its citizens.

How are those for a start?

...need I say more?