Obama -- At last, someone who acts and thinks and talks like a real president.

JDPriestly

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Fri Jul-25-08 03:31 PM
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Obama -- At last, someone who acts and thinks and talks like a real president.

I'm listening to the Sarkozy/Obama press conference. Obama sounds so intelligent. He handles it so well.

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scheming daemons

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Fri Jul-25-08 03:31 PM
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1. Bumper Sticker: "I want a President that can pronounce NUCLEAR"

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Muttocracy

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Fri Jul-25-08 03:33 PM
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2. :) wonder how MacCheese says it? nt

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The_Casual_Observer

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Fri Jul-25-08 03:35 PM
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3. I've always wondered if the day would come when a truly smart &

qualified person would ever be elected president. It looks like it might happen this time.

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depakid

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Fri Jul-25-08 03:40 PM
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5. Bill Clinton was smart & far more qualified

and to be fair, his foreign policies were resoundingly successful.

His domestic and trade policies, on the other hand... well, let's just say that if Obama is elected that he isn't seduced into making the same shortsighted corporatist mistakes.

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sandnsea

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Fri Jul-25-08 03:49 PM
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6. His foreign policy sucked, get real

If he hadn't banged the bio/chem drum on Iraq long after there was a threat, we wouldn't be in this mess today. If he hadn't put the oil companies over the taliban, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in with Afghanistan. He didn't put any hard regulations in the China trade agreements. Every problem we have today was put in place by Bill Clinton for the benefit of the Bushes.

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depakid

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Fri Jul-25-08 04:06 PM
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9. I'm no Clinton fan- but I give credit where credit's due

Edited on Fri Jul-25-08 04:17 PM by depakid

The effort in the Balkans was (if late) an amazing feat that would be hard for anyone in history to have matched. Let's also not forget that he nearly had the Israeli's and the Palestinians in a historic deal.

Then of course, there was Northern Ireland. That's worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/1065913.stm

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sandnsea

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Fri Jul-25-08 04:46 PM
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14. Those were good

But not particularly beneficial in the long term. The harm he did isn't offset by the good, and I suspect Ireland was just plain ready for peace. Also, Israel wasn't anywhere near ready for a deal, both sides were playing games all along. Read Madelaine Albright's book. It wasn't Clinton's fault or responsibility, just the way it is. Clinton allowed global corporate philosophy to rule foreign policy and there will be no progress for humans as long as that happens.

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The_Casual_Observer

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Fri Jul-25-08 03:52 PM
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7. However, not smart enough to get wrapped up in utter personal bullshit.

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depakid

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Fri Jul-25-08 04:09 PM
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10. That would be a character flaw that no one outside of the puritanical pornograhers

in America gives a rats ass about.

One of MANY ways that other western nations behave more rationally than the United States.

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The_Casual_Observer

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Fri Jul-25-08 04:17 PM
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12. He knew that was the case. He should have known better.

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highplainsdem

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Fri Jul-25-08 04:16 PM
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11. So the Rhodes scholar who was the only Democrat to be elected president twice in the last 50 years,

and who left office with an incredibly high approval rating, wasn't "truly smart" enough for you?

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Ichingcarpenter

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Fri Jul-25-08 03:39 PM
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4. Sarkozy seems like a high school kid bouncing around on the stage/podium

Its the first time I've really seen him for longer than a sound bite.

Obama seems presidential and Sarkozy seems like a High School president.

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monmouth

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Fri Jul-25-08 04:01 PM
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8. He's just excited to be with the "real deal", his buddy...n/t

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damntexdem

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Fri Jul-25-08 04:30 PM
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13. Obama is better than that: our expectation have been lowered by Dubya.

At last, someone who acts, thinks and talks like a good, intelligent president.

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