Skipping the trip to the hospital was boneheaded screw-up.

Until this blunder the talking head shows would have been all good for the campaign. Now the story is that Obama refused to visit troops because he couldn't take his camera crews. How this was going to be spun was easy to predict but the Obama campaign blundered right into it. That tremendous speech and reception yesterday has become the thing he was doing before he snubbed our fighting heroes.

Smooth move.

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He was on that leg of the trip using campaign finances. THAT was the problem. What part of it dont you get?

editing because clearly youre confused: Department of Defense rules prohibit political campaigning on military bases.

on quite a few. So, you're talking out of your ass.

Debunked repeatedly.

And for your next act...?

That they informed the campaign that this would be viewed as a campaign event, which the campaign wanted to avoid. It wasn't only the press that couldn't accompany him, none of his campaign staff would have been allowed either.

Oh, and FYI, he called injured soldiers at Landstuhl.

You just fucked up. Big.

she was on cnn a few minutes ago.
and said this was nothing but bluster on the mccain campaign's part and explained that there are certain protocols and rules to follow whether it's a congressional visit or a campaing one, etc etc., and there is nothing the Obama camp did that was wrong, so shut the fuck up about it already.

well, she didn't add the last part but one day she will, she will. ;)

Smooth move.

and personally, had I been an injured soldier, that's EXACTLY how I'd feel. Politically exploited.

They would have skewered him for using wounded vets for a campaign trip. Not only was it a smooth move it was the right move. The pentagon verified that.

It has been made clear that the pentagon wouldn't allow the visit.

Haven't heard a word about it on teevee.

Have read plenty of posts here debunking it.

It's not even close to a gaff, and to have going would have been the blunder. He phoned them instead.

No idea why anyone would deliberately, actually, type out the subject line and copy in your post without having a second thought like, "what will this accomplish?".

Or, maybe you had some purpose in mind.

:shrug:

The Pentagon told him not to go.

and also was correct in following the rules. And, he gets credit for WANTING and PLANNING to go, in my book.

The McCain campaign is being supervised by the WH. They are inviolation of the Hatch Act for the 1000th time

I get confused sometimes.

Thanks for your concern, though.

the Obama campaign and the Daily Brainwashing from MediaCorp:

"Yet if Obama happens to ba in the same town as someone who says some really strange stuff, Obama is forced to apologize for it.

Keep swinging Barack."

:(

Sen. Barack Obama's campaign staff and the Pentagon are putting forth different versions of what happened before Obama cancelled a planned Friday morning visit to the Ramstein air base in Germany.

The Obama campaign has suggested the Pentagon interfered with its decision to visit U.S. troops at the Ramstein and Landstuhl U.S. military bases in Germany -- something the Pentagon denied Friday.

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But on Wednesday, Gibbs said, Gration received new information from the Pentagon, saying that this visit would be viewed as a campaign stop.

He said the Pentagon said Obama could visit wounded troops from Illinois in his capacity as a senator, but that was it. Gration dealt with the legislative affairs office within the office of Secretary of Defense Robert Gates.

"He could go as a United States senator, but it was pretty clear from the guidance that we received from the Pentagon that the trip would be viewed as a campaign stop," Gibbs told reporters Friday. "Given the information that we had received, Senator Obama made the decision that we were not gonna have wounded men and women become involved in a campaign event or what would be perceived as a campaign event."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5449455&page=1

BERLIN,GERMANY) UPDATE, 1:30pm ET Barack Obama spent the morning working in his room at Berlin's Adelon Hotel after the campaign canceled a planned visit to Ramstein Airbase and Landstuhl Regional Medical Center. Late last night, the campaign canceled the planned troop visit because they said they did not want to politicize the meeting.

Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell told CBS News today, "The senator is more than welcome to visit any military facility, he always has been and always will be, as a senator."

"The Pentagon was willing to accomodate the fact they were on a campaign trip," Morrell added, saying that the Pentagon would have kept the campaign staff and traveling press outside while Obama was inside visiting the troops.

"It was their decision to cancel the visit," Morrell said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/07/25/politics/fromtheroad/entry4292302.shtml

But the wingnuts are going to run with it. Obama camp needs to get out there and explain it was a big misunderstanding and let someone do a huge mea culpa.

Perhaps Obama needs to ditch the cameras and quietly fly back with a small press contigent and visit the hospital before flying back to U.S.

Yeah, IMHO a rare misstep by campaign.

for example: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6540740&mesg_id=6540740

McCaint agrees that you caint go to military bases while on the stump. Unless of course he is attacking Obama, and then you can.

Who's the bonehead now?

I hope you don't lose sleep over the boneheaded screw-up. :eyes:

:eyes:

By now you've realized that you bought into the right wing spin. Want to apologize and make it better?

well...if the OP can post some inane and, beyond that, rw bullshit, i can, too...can't i?