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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:06 PM
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McCain Spokesman: John McCain Doesn’t Know What He’s Talking About On Social Security
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/29/mccain-bounds-social-security/

McCain Spokesman: John McCain Doesn’t Know What He’s Talking About On Social Security


On Sunday, ABC’s George Stephanopoilos asked Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) about his plans to fix social security. McCain said repeatedly that “everything has to be on the table” regarding possible reforms — including a payroll tax increase:

STEPHANOPOULOS: So, that means payroll tax increases are on the table, as well?

MCCAIN: There is nothing that’s off the table.

The comments drew a “sharp rebuke” from the Club for Growth, who wrote McCain a letter calling the comments “shocking because you have been adamant in your opposition to raising taxes under any circumstances.” In fact, just last year McCain explicitly told the National Review that he refused to consider any sort of tax increase. He also told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos, “No new taxes.”

Trying to stymie the conservative blow-back over his boss’s recent comments, McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds insisted to Fox News this morning that the senator hadn’t really been speaking for the campaign. When Fox host Megyn Kelly insisted Bounds stop “waffling” and answer whether a tax increase was “on the table,” Bounds replied, “No”:

KELLY: Might the Social Security tax go up? Is that on the table?

BOUNDS: No, Megyn, there is no imaginable circumstance where John McCain would raise payroll taxes. It’s absolutely out of the question.

Watch a compilation at link~

Kelly remarked that Bounds seemed to be promoting a different opinion from his candidate. When Bounds said that he agreed with Holtz-Eakin, Kelly interjected, “But you’re guy doesn’t agree with him.” “No,” Bounds seemed to admit.

As Igor Volsky documents in the Wonk Room, McCain has gone back and forth a number of times on the issue of increasing the payroll tax. The truth is that lifting the current cap is the fairest way to help shore up the finances of Social Security.

Update: This is the third time this week that the McCain's advisers has suggested that McCain himself isn't speaking for the campaign or doesn't understand his own policy.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:13 PM
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1. McCain is an idiot
He knows very little, parrots what he is told, but apparently forgets his "stance" on just about everything. Millions of people would make a better President than McMoron, however, that will not stop millions of morons from voting for this joker.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:15 PM
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2. He IS a moron. And I've noticed how he doesn't want to
talk about any pertinent issues, just wants to bash Obama. Maybe because, when he does try to explain himself, he's so good at botching it up.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:17 PM
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4. Exactly. Even his ads are good for blaming Obama for failed Republican policy
That's all they have is lies, nothing redeeming for our country, whatsoever.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:32 PM
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16. That makes so much sense.
He can't get through an idea without bumbling. He and his handlers know it. So, they go on the attack. His ads don't even feature him, only Obama.

Apparently, the only line he can get right is "I'm John Mccain and I approve this message". Even when his campaign doesn't.
:rofl:
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:34 PM
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17. Exactly, McShame doesn't want to talk about any pertinent issue because he is clueless about
every pertinent issue: he can only spill RW harangue and bash his opponent mostly through distortions and outright misinformation, if not out and out lies. :P
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:15 PM
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3. That's mighty big of his spokesman to
fess up.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:18 PM
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5. what is it with Tuckers being complete douchebags?
I'm starting to hate him even more than McCain, if that's possible.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:21 PM
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6. How exactly does McCain NOT speak for his (own) campaign?
Edited on Tue Jul-29-08 03:46 PM by butlerd
:wtf:
Which only begs the question: If "Straight Talk Express" & "Maverick" McCain is not speaking for HIS OWN CAMPAIGN then who the hell IS and why would we want a President who can't speak for himself? Is his spokesman acknowledging that other people are really running the show? (BTW: I can imagine that this could cause some really serious problems in the foreign policy arena).
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:24 PM
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10. It's an absurd notion
Are they just saying the guy doesn't know anything, even his own positions? It's like he trips over himself every single time he opens his mouth.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:28 PM
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13. especially in light of
"Phil Gram does not speak for me. I speak for me." ok.....
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:28 PM
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15. spot on!
What kind of convoluted assault on logic and common sense are they going to pull out of their ass on this one?
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 06:17 PM
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22. mccain does not speak for himself.
no personal responsibility
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 10:30 PM
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23. Great
Just what we need: another President who doesn't admit any mistakes nor takes any personal responsibility whatsoever for anything he does. NOT!!!!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:21 PM
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7. Posted a video of this nonsense in our forum...
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:21 PM
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8. It's insane listening to this guy
If you are a serious student of policy, the thought that a guy like John McCain could ever come this close to the presidency is appalling. He might no less about basic policy than Bush. McCain is troublingly ignorant of even the most basic concepts of policy, domestic and international. Sometimes he can sound good and look good, when he's scripted and has time to prepare or he's getting fed softballs, but if he is even a little out of those elements you can see the holes in his game.

I can't believe what he said about Social Security a few weeks ago. I still think he just didn't know how it worked. I don't think he's actually against Social Security, I think somehow it dawned on the guy that current younger workers pay for retirees, and, for some reason, he thought that it was different in the past, so he called it a "disgrace." I heard commentators say that he was attacking SS and he'd get nowhere talking about changing it totally etc. I don't think he meant to change the basic concept of it, I'm pretty sure he didn't know that's how it worked in the first place. That's simple 101 level policy stuff. Amazing that he doesn't grasp that.

I also think the reason he got his op-ed for the NY Times turned down is because it was poorly written and embarassing. McCain can't define victory. He doesn't even know what it is, his Iraq policy doesn't make sense. If John McCain took a beginner's level foreign policy class - I have- and he wrote a paper about invading Iraq, the pros and cons, and how the situation ended up how it is right now, the options that we now have, and then he had to define and articulate an endgame to the policy, if he wrote what he actually says on Iraq, he would be lucky to get a passing grade. Now why would any newspaper accept an op-ed that isn't even up to the snuff of a lower level foreign policy student's C paper?
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:23 PM
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9. As time goes by I am getting the
feeling that McCain is just a play-dough figure until the real candidate enters stage left.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:24 PM
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11. If McCain wasn't speaking for the McCain Campaign, then who was he supposed to be speaking for?
Edited on Tue Jul-29-08 03:25 PM by izzybeans
I sense a potentially devastating advertisement in the works.

"Do you really want a President who can't even speak for himself?"
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:36 PM
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19. Who is John McCain? What does he stand for?
Yeah. That would be a great ad. Take a few of his contradictory statements back to back.

Who is John McCain? What does he stand for?


At the end: John McCain doesn't know either.

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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:27 PM
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12. Maybe to save time, they should just tell us what McCain does understand.
*crickets*


To be fair, here's list of what McCain understands:

What makes Cindy mad.
What drugs Cindy scarfs up. (All of them)
Those neighbor kids better get off my lawn. I know who your parents are.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:28 PM
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14. Riiiiight ... the candidate doesn't speak for the campaign ...
They're accustomed to Puke candidates being puppets, obviously.

Bake
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 03:34 PM
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18. It's a system that worked so well for Ronnie Reagan, Actor Extrordinaire (nt)
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 04:00 PM
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20. And for Junior, with his receiver and earpiece!
With a loose cannon like McAnus, not so much.

Bake
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 04:40 PM
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21. This reminds me of when some athlete claimed he was misquoted in his autobiography
I think it was Darryl Strawberry (baseball player). He hadn't really understood something that the ghostwriter put in the book. When the book was published, the statement drew criticism, and he disclaimed it.
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