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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 06:03 PM
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Rachel Maddow "Smack Down" for Buchanan...I heard so much about turned out to be NOTHING!!!!
Edited on Thu Jul-31-08 06:06 PM by KoKo01
Somebody posted a "You Tube" on "DU Videos" but when we watched it we never saw ANY SMACK DOWN of Maddow to Buchanan. There was much HYPE and FRUFAH here on DU that MSNBC had SCRUBBED it ALL...and that folks would be working hard to get what MSNBC had "Scrubbed."

So..when it finally appears it FALLS WAY SHORT OF WHAT WAS PROMISED."

Does MSNBC HAVE COPORATE SHILLS posting here on DU? Folks working for "flagging ratings MSNBC" who pump "Dancing with Rove/David Gregorie's stupid show? :shrug:

Is this what it's coming down to here on DU. We are SHILLS FOR GE/MSNBC?

:eyes:

Are "Plants" now causing friction and interloping here on this site when all we USED TO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT...were FREEPERS? :shrug:

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Yeah.. I'M PISSED!

Here's LINK to BOGUS VIDEO that supposedly SHOWS IT ALL ...You tell me if it does...but I don't want to give hits to Corporate GE..CRAP "MSNBC, NBC, CNBC" and their stable of LIARS!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x163709
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tnlurker Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 06:03 PM
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1. On the front page of DU
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 06:07 PM
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3. Yeah, Rachel had great points, but it doesn't really live up to the hype
Pat was certainly not rendered speechless. Unfortunately.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 06:07 PM
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2. I don't know what your problem is. She actually has a better rant on her
radio show, a great rant against the media:

http://airamerica.com/content/maddow-barack-obama-presumptuous

She has a realllly well crafted argument.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 06:09 PM
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4. It wasn't quite the "smackdown" I was hoping for but it made Rachel look
Edited on Thu Jul-31-08 06:10 PM by tularetom
a hell of a lot smarter than Pukecannon.

All in all it was a win for the good guys so I wouldn't be so quick to holler foul.

And even Dances With Rove managed to put the Obama quote in context - one of the few positive things I've seen from him.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 06:10 PM
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5. Wait a sec
It's something because we have someone out there responding instead of shilling for the right. And it's someone who has so much poise and is so quick on her feet. Rachel is an important, young voice of the left taking on that rotting corpse of a racist Pat Buchanan.

Any time one of our people pushes back against him and doesn't let him have the last word before the commercial break, it's a great moment worthy of applause. And don't think Rachel didn't have her eye on the clock. She knew what she was doing on several levels.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 06:16 PM
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6. Thanks for that, nothing else for me to say as I was getting ready to post but
your words say it as well as anyone could. I don't know what the poster's problem is anyway.

Rachael has been there and has battled Buchanan and others for I don't know how long. She stands up for our candidate and what the hell else do you want her to do.

Also, she did smack him down.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 06:22 PM
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9. Don't get me wrong here...I love Rachel Maddow...she's the best person they've
put out there in over a Decade to refute the Repig Liars. But...there were folks here on DU claiming that MSNBC had "scrubbed" some "Incredible segment" where Rachel caused Pat Buchanan to leave the room in "angst" she chewed him over so good.

Posts in thread "claimed" that the vidio wasn't available from MSNBC...it was "scrubbed...or something" so that folks like "us" wouldn't be able to see it.

Many DU'ers on theread offered to go back to their TIVO's and try to download it because they implied it was just the best thing they'd ever seen.

The damned thing finally get's up on DU FRONT PAGE VIDEOS and it's a DAMNED DISAPPOINTMENT. Nothing THERE.

So..either GE/MSNBC has "shills" hawking stuff to get DU'ers to do an "E=Mail Campaign" or more to "force GE/MSNBC to RELEASE this incredible Maddow "put down" to Buchanan..(which really BOOSTS MSNBC/GE's RATINGS on the LIBERAL BLOGS) or it was a plant story to get us to watch MSNBC more often waiting to see if Rachel the "Dragon Slayer" can fulfill our "Fantasies" about how to take down Pat Buchanan.

I was all into this until I saw that it all seems very "silly and contrived" after watching the FINAL VIDEO that was POSTED where the whole thing is NOTHING.

I gave the video link in my "OP" and you watch for yourself to see if the HYPE is WORTH THE WATCH.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 06:57 PM
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11. I know you like her a whole lot....
Maybe the buildup was too much. I saw it earlier and thought she just did a good job of dealing with PB. No fireworks. But she kept firm and got in all she wanted to get across. Her timing was spot on.

I guess what I was wondering is what you expected. Maybe some fireworks? :D I'm waiting for that on January 20th when Obama gets inaugurated. That's when Rachel gets to light the fuse on top of Buchanan's head and we all put on our Obama-style sunglasses for the show.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 07:09 PM
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13. The "Rachel vs Buchanan Smack Down" was very HYPED here on DU....
so...I let my post to you stand and my OP.
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 06:19 PM
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7. Rachel
Yeah, I ate up the hype and wanted to see Rachel make Pat beg for forgiveness for the wrongness of his whole life.

Not that magnitude, but having a liberal fighter that doesn't fold and has the presence of mind to continue to drive home the main point which is usually covered up completely by MSM.

Rachel ain't a mere token, she an opinion content provider. Shes part of us underground band of freaks that want to carve in Mt Rushmore for all eternity the image of our naked emperor. And she's gonna keep fighting or get suicided in the process.

-90% Jimmy
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 06:21 PM
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8. I know 9 times out of 10 something gets so built up on DU, by the time
the clip shows up online and I get a chance to see it for myself, it's rather anticlimactic.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 06:25 PM
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10. I figure I'm pretty "savvy" being here so long...but this one suckered me in and left me
hollow like a carcass with blood sucked out.

I'm really pissed and think it's MSNBC promoters here on the blogs promoting their stuff because their ratings are tanking. :shrug: I hope I'm wrong ...but I've found on my years here that something hyped this big..ususally doesn't peter out like this video did.

Maybe it's DU 3.0 or something that stuff that's posted turns out to be crap...Figures ...given how much is at stake in this election.

I really want to be wrong on this one, though.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 07:03 PM
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12. nothing ever lives up to the hype n/t
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 07:14 PM
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14. I've been on DU long enough to expect better...but maybe "Times have Changed."
Edited on Thu Jul-31-08 07:24 PM by KoKo01
I just find it sad to see something "falsly hyped" without any dissenting opinion.. There was a "Call Out" to bombard MSNBC to RELEASE THE VIDEO that was held CAPTIVE! What was released didn't seem to stand up to something being "Held Captive." That's what I'm saying. :shrug: for what it's worth.

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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 08:18 PM
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15. I saw it at the time and thought Rachael did a great job
she had Pat so mad he was laughing and trying to treat her in a dismissive way.

I didn't know about the "release the video" discussion.

I was just thinking of how many times I've been disappointed by a movie when people said it was a must see. Those became my least favorite movies.

We're all on edge here. We're afraid the BS is going to stick. Its like group PTSD as a result of Swiftboaters and "Gore is a liar". Then there was NO ONE on TV calling them on their shit. Now we have a few (Olbermann, Rachel, Abrams and sometimes Matthews) who will stand up to the BS and call 'em on it. I thought that's what Rachel did.

(I didn't mean my first post to sound dismissive, I was going to explain better but had to run.)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 08:32 PM
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16. I understand what you say...thanks...
There was alot of hype that you probably missed about this. But, I understand what you say.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 10:29 AM
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17. Snarf---
I watched the thing twice and I gotta say, I still haven't figured out why this got so much play?

I almost posted a thread asking for someone to explain what I missed.

Glad I'm not the only one.
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