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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 12:59 PM
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After Friday's TRIUMPH, Pelosi tells House members it's okay to vote for offshore drilling...
...if it will help them at home. (Reported this last hour on msnbc.)

I can't help feeling that if Obama had stood strong on this Pelosi wouldn't be making such a statement.

If Will Rogers is right that, "given a Republican and a Democrat who acts like one, Americans will vote for the Republican every time," our side is making a big mistake.

imo undecided voters will just see this as an admission that the Republicans had it right ~ wouldn't it have been better to launch a BOLD OFFENSIVE campaign to call them on their gimmicks and educate voters??

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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 01:00 PM
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1. Fucking Pelosi and the spineless Dems
:mad:
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 01:17 PM
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9. She seems to have taken her cue from Obama this time.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 02:11 PM
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15. She should have gone to talk to him
I can understand during an election year where rumblings about drilling offshore in the present energy climate could be tolerated, but to specifically give the go-ahead is very different. "Showing openness" to the idea of offshore drilling is a far cry from sending the troops off to vote for it. Right now, Arnold is my hero on the drilling issue. Would that the Dems had his conviction. Would that the Dems tell people the truth about all the fossil fuel options.

Nancy and the rest of the 2006 Dems have been a huge disappointment with the exception of a notable few. May Cindy win in her stead.

Whining that they are afraid to be called "obstructionist" is just laughable, with the pukes having a record 76 filibusters at my last count. The pukes aren't scared of it and it just makes the Dems' timid gamesmanship that much more pathetic.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 02:25 PM
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16. I thought it was odd that Obama would make his statement...
Edited on Tue Aug-05-08 02:29 PM by polichick
...just a few hours after House Dems left Republicans in the dark ~ seems like a glaring lack of communication between the various parties. My question is, why did Obama make that statement at that moment ~ is it possible that he didn't know what had happened in the House?

I thought they might be playing bad cop/good cop ~ now it looks like a complete cop cave-in.


Dems across the board have been unwilling to play hardball.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 01:00 PM
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2. how about educating the public to the facts? I was, once again, disappointed in obama,
and all the others who are caving in to the lies about our energy needs. sickening.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 01:05 PM
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7. Are they that afraid of losing the election?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 01:21 PM
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11. imo Obama and Pelosi are throwing the election away by doing this.
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 01:01 PM
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3. Exactly!...Across the border in Canada i get the impression that Democrats are "meow!"..why is that?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 01:19 PM
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10. It's as if they're in high school and are afraid of the bullies...
...the football players and cheerleaders who are popular in spite of their vile ways.

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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 01:02 PM
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4. I cant figure out how these people get into office when its the SAME tactics that get them out
Edited on Tue Aug-05-08 01:03 PM by quantass
:shrug:

no wonder Repubs win most of the time over generations
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 01:02 PM
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5. Shameful that Republicans can influence the Democrat's policy
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 01:02 PM
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6. She needs to be voted out as leader. She just isn't tough enough. Her or Hoyer
Why can't someone like Wexler, Waxman, or Ryan be the leaders in the house?
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 01:10 PM
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8. "The COURAGE of your CONVICTIONS..."
That's the thing that fools Americans into voting for Republicans ~ they BOLDLY stand by their bad positions, while Dems CAVE in spite of their brilliant positions.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 01:27 PM
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12. Exactly. Their convictions are WRONG
but at least they stick to them, and apparently American voters prefer muleheaded stubborness to waffling, I mean shifting, I mean vascillating, I mean..... refining one's position.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 01:28 PM
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13. and what triumph would that be? I missed it. n/t
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 01:30 PM
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14. Pelosi refused to allow a vote on offshore drilling - she and the Dems...
...turned off the House lights and left for vacation, while Republicans sat in the dark and protested.
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