Insiders Suggest Obama's Pick Not Coming Soon - Hillary "has made a comeback", may be on short list

Insiders Suggest Obama's Pick Not Coming Soon
from Taegan Goddard's Political Wire

Obama aides tell the Financial Times that "it is unlikely a running mate will be selected before the candidate returns from a week's holiday in Hawaii, which starts this Friday. That leaves about 10 days until the start of the Democratic party convention in Denver."

They also say it's not likely to be leaked. "In addition to Michelle Obama, the candidate's inner circle consists of just three people: David Axelrod, his senior strategist, David Plouffe, his campaign manager, and Robert Gibbs, a senior adviser. All three are intensely loyal and discreet Obama professionals."

Nonetheless, the newspaper suggest Sen. Hillary Clinton "has made a comback" in recent days and may be on the short list.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/08/06/insiders_suggest_obamas_pick_not_coming_soon.html

ulterior motive is to sabotage her chances? :shrug:

Out of the three in the tight lipped inner circle, one of them would have had to leak that Hillary is on the short list. If anything I think it would be only to keep Hillary's last hold outs interested and paying attention.

I'm so fucking tired of hearing about her. He won't pick her. She openly criticized him, promoting McCain over a fellow Democrat. Those clips have already been put into a TV ad and used against him.

WHY would he pick anyone who undermines him and would stab him in the back if given the slightest opening?

WHY would he pick anyone whose spouse is STILL stirring up the shit and is STILL ANGRY about the primary loss?

WHY would he pick the one democrat who has undermined him the MOST?

He's not going to choose anyone who might actually damage his chances of winning... and she just might. So cross her off the list.


Please Obama... pick your VP soon so we don't have to hear this ridiculous speculation any longer!

I gag every time she's mentioned.

...and I include Bill in that, since he's still out there making noncommittal, tepid statements about the Dem nominee.

I also agree that the claim that Hillary's 'back on the short list' contradicts the statement about the tight-lipped inner circle. People are still speculating because they don't know jack.

"Insiders suggest" = "People are still guessing".

"In late June, polls conducted by The Wall Street Journal/NBC and Fox/Opinion Dynamics -- using entirely different samples -- both showed Sen. Clinton giving Sen. Obama a +3% bump, pushing him over 51% for the first time, when the two of them were paired against Sen. McCain and Gov. Romney.

Most recently, in nationwide polling on July 22-23, a Fox/Opinion Dynamics poll showed a more dramatic bump of +8% with Sen. Clinton as Sen. Obama's vice presidential running mate. In a head-on match, it was Sen. Obama 41% to Sen. McCain's 40% (this was before the intense media coverage of his European trip). But with exactly the same sample, when all voters were presented with the choice of an Obama-Clinton ticket vs. McCain-Romney, the results were Obama-Clinton, 48% (+7%), and McCain-Romney 39% (-1%)"


----it's only "ridiculous speculation" among those Obama supporters whose hatred of Hillary keys their support for Obama.

A 3 point bump isn't anything to brag about IMO.

base and motivate them to come out in droves to vote against that ticket. It's not measurable but it's very, very real.

not true. Or is polling an unmeasurable?

He's like a loose canon.

Democratic President of their lifetime. It's only the Obama hardcore that dislikes him. It's not the Obama hardcore that needs to be talked into voting for Obama, so I don't understand your point. If Hillary is the VP, Bill will be doing everything he can to get the ticket elected - he will help with the voters that Obama is not reaching. As will Hillary.

Having Bill Clinton on your side is no small thing - he's the only Dem to win the White House in the last 30 years.

:shrug:

Um .... no!

Feel better?

:hi:

But if THAT is your main sticking point... hey... whatever...

It seems like a sticking point around here is still to re-hash the primary.

I see the so called post primary rules set down have been thrown out the window.

It's back to the Hillary bashing and telling her supporters to "get out of the way" 24/7.

Thank god DU is not representative of the party in the real world.

It's all about Hillary being pushed for VP (which has not been decided yet) and Bill bringing up the racial comments again!

This has nothing to do with the primaries. This is the here and now.

Yet the same players are STILL jumping at the chance to slam the Clintons.

Isn't that odd?

I don't believe she's being crammed down anyone's throat.

Why shouldn't she be on the "short list" anyway? She received nearly as many votes as Barack did for the nomination.

the paper going on? Chicken entrails?

re-emerged as the dream ticket. It was always the best way to earn the VP slot fight like crazy for Obama. It's the future first really as long as they make that the focus and set an agenda together the can't go wrong. I feel twice as much will get done for America if they take office. It will be great for the senate too.

Glad Obama's taking his time with this, as there really isn't a slam dunk selection out there.

Kick this back up to the top :)

:kick:

Anecdotal, sure, but I know of more than a few swing voters (voting for Reagan and then Clinton) who are on the fence about Obama, and asking Hillary to be on the ticket would automatically kick them firmly into Obama's column. She's by no means a slam-dunk, sure, but it would rip the gender gap wide open in Obama's favor and fire-up many in the party like no other choice could.

:hug:

McCain's now ahead, 47-44, with the PPP poll taken a few days ago showing Obama's losing support among Hispanics and older women. I posted a topic about the poll with those internal numbers. Last month's PPP Florida poll had Obama leading.

if they're still the main three being vetted, it shouldn't take this long to pick one of them. I wonder if the list being "fluid" is code for the fact that they're making room for someone else, like Chet Edwards, or Schweitzer?

No real need to change the momentum and focus at this point. I'm sure he'll still get the nomination whoever he picks (I trust him to pick someone reasonable), and nobody else gets to vote until November anyway.

Actually, I'd bet that the decision has already been made. Whoever it is needs time to clear their schedule and make travel plans and just generally get their lives in order for the spotlight to come. The Secret Service also needs to be ready before the announcement to check out residences and schools and that sort of thing.

Bill has made it clear that he is not an Ally.

than please the few that are still waiting on whether to vote for McCain.

no contest.