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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 04:13 PM
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Some "talking points", please.
I'm having lunch on Friday with two friends, married, who are Independents and leaning toward McCain. They are bright, lovely people in their mid 30's with a new baby girl and an 8 year old boy. They live reasonable comfortably and are hard working folks. I've warned them that I am hell bent to change their minds and they've still invited me to lunch. If you were me, how would you go about converting them?
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mloutre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 04:15 PM
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1. That depends. From what to what?

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 04:16 PM
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2. Do you know WHY they're leaning toward McCain? nt
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 04:16 PM
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3. What is making them lean towards McCain?
If you can find out maybe you can prepare some information to tell them.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 04:20 PM
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4. Ask them for help in debunking this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6596460

Can you please help me debunk this nasty e-mail?

I got this horrible e-mail in my in-box.

Any one of these items, if true, would mean that John McCain is unfit to be the leader of the free world. So I'm sure they're untrue.

So let's go through this list item by item, so we can forget this mess.

the e-mail reads:

John McCain once said: "Make it a hundred, that would be fine with me," with regards to how many years troops would be in Iraq.

John McCain was against making MLK Jr. Day a holiday.

John McCain once said, "Fuck you, I know more about this than anybody else in this room," to a senator, on the issue of immigration.

John McCain once proposed legislation to give immigrants a pathway to citizenship, then came out against it.

John McCain does not know the difference between Sunni and Shia.

John McCain once said "I will conduct a respectful debate. Now, it will be dispirited -- it will be spirited -- because there are stark differences. I am a proud conservative, liberal Republica-- conservative Republican...Hello?"

John McCain once said of illegal immigrants "We need to sit down as Americans and recognize these are God's children as well. And they need some protection under the law; they need some of our love and compassion," and then later joked about killing people with cancer.

John McCain asked for and was thankful for the endorsement of noted homophobes, anti-catholics, and anti-semites.

John McCain once said "I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live."

John McCain is against pro-choice, but when asked said he'd help his young daughter find an abortion if she wanted one.

John McCain has done little to fight torture under the Bush administration, despite the time he was in a Vietnamese prison being tortured.

John McCain is in favor of offshore drilling, despite the time he was in an offshore prison getting... well you get the idea.

John McCain does not know how to use computers.

When asked how his VP search was going, he responded "Well, basically it's a Google."

John McCain says he doesn't understand the economy. Or care about social issues.

John McCain once joked about killing people with IEDs.

John McCain once said "Media industry leaders should voluntarily commit to reining in the toxic mix of sex and violence that has come to dominate so many media products which negatively affect our children today," before offering his wife to strip in front of a crowd and perform sexual acts with a banana.

Well, that's just a few items from this e-mail. There are plenty more where this came from, but I'm so sickened I can't post more right now.

Please e-mail this message to ten different people.

I'm sure if we all use things like Snopes and the Google together, we can thoroughly research these lies and put them to rest.

Thanks.

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Or show them this list:

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/flipflops
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