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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 05:12 PM
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Maureen Dowd says in todays NYT that Obama did not indicate
Edited on Wed Aug-06-08 05:15 PM by rzemanfl
his race on his Harvard Law School application. On so many levels, how cool is that?

http://tinyurl.com/6aozrh
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 05:17 PM
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1. So dense I don't understand why that fact is worthy of mention in today's NYT
or in any forum or discussion. Can someone clue me? :D :shrug:
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 05:22 PM
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2. Presumably, it means he wasn't relying on his race...
Edited on Wed Aug-06-08 05:25 PM by Kutjara
...to obtain favorable consideration under any college scheme aimed at increasing enrollment by minorities. He was applying purely on merit.

In a rational world, this would insulate him from accusations that his achievements were the result of "affirmative action" favoritism. Of course, we don't even live in the same galaxy as a rational world, so...
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EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 11:21 PM
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17. She used that in contrast to McCain's legacy benefits
It was an excellent point to counter claims that Obama wouldn't be where he is if he weren't black.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 07:48 PM
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23. Yup. Again... WHICH one is the elitist child of privilege? nt
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 05:30 PM
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3. It's Dowd
The queen of nit-picky.
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 05:40 PM
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4. given that we have been told Obama "would not even be in this race if he wasn't black"
I think this is worth repeating again and again
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 07:42 PM
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5. Maybe not quite so dense as before but what Obama has accomplished
since his graduation, his understanding, his intelligence, his style, his panache all speak for themselves no matter how he might have gotten into law school. :D
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 08:17 PM
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9. The country is full of people who would have done ANYTHING
to get into a law school. That is why there are so many third tier law schools. He is not of that kind.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 08:10 PM
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7. Did you read the linked article to get the context? As to not
mentioning his race, it tells me: a) that he was sure he would get into Harvard Law strictly on his merits-which shows great personal confidence b) that no one can ever play the affirmative action card against him, which may or may not have entered into his decision c) it is in stark contrast to McSame getting into Annapolis on his family name
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ObamaIL Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 09:43 PM
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15. BINGO
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 08:31 PM
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26. I believe he has said
he benefited from affirmative action.

That said- his qualifications are/ were outstanding.

And as for not stating race - methinks the name would attract attention.

So-ho -hum - what's the big deal.
The man was and is well qualified for anything.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 07:25 PM
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20. He didn't take advantage of
Affirmative Action. Got into Harvard based on his brains alone.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 07:34 PM
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21. Maybe it means that Obama...

...wasn't relying on a quota system.
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 08:06 PM
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6. Even If He Did, Does Not Matter
He graduated magna cum laude, and was editor in chief of the law review. With that kind of resume, he could be a law professor or federal judge. The dude is smart.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 08:13 PM
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8. As to being a federal judge, the Repukes have been in control
of that process more often than not lately. No question he's smart.
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 08:31 PM
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10. True, GOP Hegemony Could Prove A Fomidable Barrier
And, of course, he would have no chance getting hired by Goodling in the Justice Department.
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mloutre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 08:34 PM
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11. zOMG!11!! He was so ashamed of his background he had to hide it! OH NOES!!!!1!!




*fnord*
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 08:55 PM
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12. No, no, it's WORSE than that, don't you see? He was CONFIDENT
he'd get into Harvard Law School. That PROVES he's ALWAYS been presumptuous. And arrogant. And aloof. And Elitist. He thinks he's SMARTER than the average person. And what's worse, he's RIGHT!!!!1111!!!
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 07:04 PM
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19. Oh my gosh. The utter gall of the man. :)
You made me smile, so thank you.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 09:00 PM
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13. Doesn't matter. White folks will still see only "affirmative action" when they look at him.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 09:42 PM
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14. I don't remember the HLS application having a place to indicate
race.
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ObamaIL Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-06-08 09:45 PM
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16. They All Ask As An Option....It Isn't School By School
It's to track acceptance rates and the like.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 07:01 PM
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18. Did you get in? n/t
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 07:46 PM
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22. Yes I did. n/t
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 07:50 PM
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24. Good for you. n/t
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 07:52 PM
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25. Now you're in China. My, how the world has changed in my
lifetime.
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