Obama's VP choice is GOING to be CLARK, You effin' HEAR me?? Clark!!

I just thought I'd toss my fondest wish into the ring with all of the other "Obama's VP choice HAS to be...." threads.

True Clark believers check in!!

Clark sounds like a fine choice to me. Many others would be fine also.

I just wanted to add my VP rant along with everyone elses.....

:patriot:

He has style and class and he is SMART.

He was able to support Hillary and to my knowledge he has no demonstrated any ill will toward Obama.

I just hope that "gaffe" didn't hurt his chances. dunno....

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Obama. Be patient and know that he will make the best possible choice for him. All these threads about Hillary and others is not helpful.

Frankly, I hope that he makes the decision fast so that we all can stop with these annoying threads. In the meantime, Clark is my top choice and makes the most sense.

Either one would make me very happy.

I'm thinking a governor is probably the strongest addition, but a general & NATO commander might be a good alternative.

:patriot:

i am so rooting for clark that i actually have knots in my tummy whenever i see one of those threads that claim insiders say it will be so-and-so.

I doubt it will happen, but we can hope.

although I would also like Clark for the position. The reason I doubt it is the other day when asked about Clark's comment about " being a fighter pilot does not make you qualified for the presidency", Kerry threw Clark under the bus. Kerry said that he disagreed with Clark and he had the highest respect for mccain. As one of Obama's top surrogates, it makes me doubt Clark is in the running, and that (Kerry's statement) made me both mad and sad.

Although we all know that Senator Obama will pick whomever he feels most comfortable and confident with and I for one, trust his instincts.

But I'll still do it.

So where is he on vouchers these days? First he was for them, then he was against and always had been against them, but if he gets on a ticket with Obama (who's for them, because there's just not enough Jesus in every corner of every waking moment) will he change back to his original position that he unequivocally never held?

What a depressing year.

I sincerely doubt it, though. :(

Living off his Hee-Haw syndication money.

TlalocW

As ling as BIDEN is SoS.

I would love to see Wes Clark as the VP nominee. Add Joe Biden for Sec of State and you'd have the best foreign policy team since the days of George Marshall and co.

...he brings "gravitas", military experience and a sharp, non-inside-the-beltway mindset to the table..

as anyone IN Washington.

His Cred in military circles worldwide is worth his consideration, imho.

You're probably right

I'm pretty neutral on most of the "short list," and really don't want Hillary, but I sure do like Clark.

No primary fight baggage, vetting issues that are negligible in comparison to the Clintons, while being a good link to them and a bridge to Clinton supporters.

He's a good attack dog surrogate who doesn't have to explain a cordial relationship with McCain.

The fact that we haven't heard much about him recently might be the real smokescreen...

someone posted that he had been to a dozen or so meetings internationally......

Perfect to keep him off the radar and talk bid'ness with the powers that be.

and I wish people would please stop bringing up "his gaffe". He didn't make a gaffe, unless we are not in the business of telling the truth anymore. His remarks were respectful and made with honor befitting a man of his stature. you may have only seen the edited version that msm put out, but in the full version, it is clear that Clark said what needed to be said. his courage in this instance as well as his entire career makes him a top choice. GO CLARK. Also, VP needs to have this kind of courage -- not be some patsy to the Republicans!

interviewer ASKED that exact question, and Clark repeated the comment in agreement.....It was in the heat of the interview and NONE of the MSM reported the question....

Furthermore, he is more of a hero than McCain. His record is frankly amazing. If McCain is protected by his POW/vet status (which I don't agree with and we didn't see with Kerry), how dare the MSM treat Clark the way they did? His medals take up a whole page. He risked his own life for his men. AND all of the people I know in the military RESPECT Clark. They do not feel that way about McCain.

AK wounds are a nasty business.

He got a silver star for that little bit of business.

Wes Clark was a leader of men and a wildly successful general. He is also a brilliant man with deep and wide knowledge of many complex subjects relevant to governing. And his policy positions are as progressive as anyone this side of Dennis. IMO, it's a no brainer to put him on the ticket.

His resume, compared to McCainus' is just a tad more impressive. From Wikipedia:

Clark was valedictorian of his class at West Point, was awarded a Rhodes Scholarship to the University of Oxford where he obtained a degree in Philosophy, Politics, and Economics (Philosophy, Politics & Economics), and later graduated from the Command and General Staff College with a master's degree in military science. He spent 34 years in the Army and the Department of Defense, receiving many military decorations, several honorary knighthoods, and a Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Clark commanded Operation Allied Force in the Kosovo War during his term as the Supreme Allied Commander Europe of NATO from 1997 to 2000.

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Clark was assigned a position in the 1st Infantry Division and flew to Vietnam on May 21, 1969 during the U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. He worked as a staff officer, collecting data and helping in operations planning, and was awarded the Bronze Star for his work with the staff. Clark was then given command of A Company, 1st Battalion, 16th Infantry of the 1st Infantry Division in January 1970. In February, only one month into his command, he was shot four times by a Viet Cong soldier with an AK-47. The wounded Clark shouted orders to his men, who counterattacked and defeated the Viet Cong force. Clark had injuries to his right shoulder, right hand, right hip, and right leg, and was sent to Valley Forge Army Hospital in Phoenixville, Pennsylvania to recuperate. He was awarded the Silver Star for his actions during the encounter.<21>


And that's just the beginning......

Wes Clark represents the best of everything the military should be.

he touched the one true third rail in this campaign: McCain's military "service." the narrative is as etched in stone as the ten commandments, and will NEVER be questioned. the media has written the myth, slavishly repeated it for the last twenty six years, and there's NO WAY anyone can survive taking it on, no matter how obliquely.

Clark is toast for the nom, and I'll bet you don't see him interviewed on TV much anymore, if at all, because the DEMS are afraid to touch him

sad, but true, cause I believe he didn't go far enough

dems can't win if they broach this subject

thing is, they don't HAVE to.....there's myriad other very rich veins of McCain hypocrisy, venality, mendacity, cowardliness (which is on TAPE, from him, in his own words: South Carolina flag controversy, anyone?) to keep the campaign in video tape well past the election

use ANY of that. stay away from his record as a "hero"

PS....he's a mass murderer, who killed innocent civilians, if you want my take on his 'service'

That is all.

Yes, I think it's a great fit that won't leave a hole in the senate or elsewhere and he's got real military experience.

McCain has experience fucking up in the military, IMO, to be captured teaches you very little about successfully conducting military action.

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His military creds appeal to the righty-coward side, his work for the Clintons appeals to that faction on the progressive side, and his stands on the issues appeal to the most informed progressives, and his basic midwestern decency appeals to the muddled middle.

:thumbsup:

:patriot:

He neutralizes any advantage McSame has. The only problem with Clark is that he doesn't have a sense of humor.

And a complete lack of fear.

You don't attack a candidate's strongest quality without coming across as an ass.

Yeah, I know. That and a dollar'll get you a cup of coffee.

General Clark really would be the best choice and as such, will probably not be.

I rather like Clark myself as I was cheering him on when he was on the offense against McCain and his hypocritical use of his POW experience on the campaign. It's only too bad that no one else really backed Clark up because it ended up blowing up in his face. That was really frustrating since Clark's criticism was absolutely right.

The only problem I see with Clark being VP though is I don't know of any special relationship or rapport he has with Obama and it looks like Obama's looking for a VP that's going to be his wingman. Plus, with the McCain POW thing, I don't know if he could be selected without a lot of drama, which Obama is not big on.

I really do hope that Clark gets selected though. He's one of the few possible VP choices that I really like even though I think he's now a dark dark horse in the veepstakes.

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Yes, my pet theory:

"K" is the most powerful sound to our ears, followed by "B", then "F".
Trumped at times in Presidential elections (double alliteration; very disparate physical appearances), but consider:

Ike (vs. Stevenson)
Kennedy (vs. Nixon, a squeaker)
LBJ (vs. Goldwater)
Nixon (over HH, true, but as my mother said then, America wasn't going to elect a Hubert)
Nixon (vs. McGovern)
Carter (vs. Ford)
RR (vs. Carter)
RR (vs. Mondale)
Bush (vs. Dukakis, whose NAME should have been a winner, as it was for the nomination, but his stature and over-all demeanor ended his try)
Clinton (vs. Bush)
Clinton (vs. Dole)
Bush (vs. Gore, a coup d'etat that America ACCEPTED)
Bush (vs. Kerry, who won our nomination and arguably the election)

Now: Obama vs. McCain. B vs. K.
If Obama picks a "K" sound---Clark, Clinton (yes, I know!), Kaine---he adds strength. If he picks another "B"---Bayh, Webb, Sibelius---he maintains. Others---Richardson, Schweitzer, e.g.---he's on his own.
If McCain picks another "K" sound, well, I hope he doesn't.

Anyway, that's my theory!
It seems simplistic, as in, what about the ISSUES?! But hey---I'm talking about AMERICANS here! :)