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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:27 PM
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Will this controversy affect Obama's numbers?
I haven't seen anything here addressing that. I didn't think so at first, but now, seeing this massive coverage I'm starting to get concerned.

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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:29 PM
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1. IMO - that's why the lame$tream stirred it up right now - so they could somehow..
...tie it to Obama and those "scurrilous Democrats with no morality" (nevermind more REPUBLICANS are unfaithful and involved in sex scandals than Dems - just that the lame$tream ignores it when THEY do it).

It's part of their plan. Wait'll ya see what other shit they pull between now and November. Pfft!
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:33 PM
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2. This is one of those kinds of questions that I hate.
Because there is no logical reason it should. They are two different people. Obama is not responsible for Edwards' behavior. This took place before Obama even got the nomination. But, the media will start asking questions like this enough times that people will think it might have an effect. Then the next thing you know Obama goes down in the polls a point or two. Not because people actually care or make the connection, but because they are told they should care and should make the connection.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:36 PM
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3. Perhaps the massive coverage will get people interested in McCain's marital history—
If cheating on your wife has such colossal implications for political integrity and fitness for high office, let's take a closer look at our actual candidates...
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:37 PM
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4. Comment heard this afternoon, Obama can have 3 more wives before he gets in trouble. n/t
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:38 PM
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5. If anyone's numbers are affected it should be McCain
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 11:40 PM by Zambero
McCain's the one who kicked his severely injured wife to the curb so that he could "upgrade" to $Cindy$. And unlike the Edwards fiasco, McCain's dalliance was no brief affair, after which he came home repentant. It was total abandonment. If the GOP mudslinging brigade has one collective ounce of brains, they'll lay low with this one.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:43 PM
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8. You have McCain mixed up with Gingrich.
Newt's wife had cancer, and he served the divorce papers to her in the hospital.

McCain's wife got into a car accident, which left her 4 inches shorter than she was when she married McCain. she also gained weight.

I know that skeevy cheating Repubs all begin to blur together after a while, but let's try to keep the reasons for them leaving their wives straight.

- as
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Zambero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:53 PM
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11. Actually it's Gingrich mixed up with McCain
After my initial post this obvious mixup of skeevy GOP wife dumpers dawned on me, so I made correcting edits, but alas, too late to escape scrutiny!



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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:59 PM
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13. No worries.
Can't tell the cheaters without a scorecard any more. :)

- as
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:46 PM
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9. I think that's why McCaain said "no comment" when asked about it. nt
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 12:32 AM
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18. But did you hear HOW he said no comment?
Yowza. I'm not kidding. He sounded like he swallowed his tongue in the process. Either his conscience was weighing heavy or he was scared shitless.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 01:36 AM
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19. Yeah--I noticed that, too. heh. heh. nt
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 01:37 AM
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20. He knows that "we" know...lol nt
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:39 PM
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6. Yep. He's done.
NOT! :)

McCain is the one with an adulterous past, not Barack Obama.

I haven't seen the interview, but heard that John Edwards mentions McCain and his own history.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:43 PM
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7. Well, it's NOT going to help my canvassing tomorrow, THAT'S for sure--
Now I'll probably have to defend the idea that ALL politcians are crooked and immoral and such things. I'm afraid that people who I need to get registered to vote will definitely not want to because they'll lump all politicians into the same category and say it's useless. That's how I think it will affect the campaign. The registered Republicans will denegrate the Dems for whatever wrong comes out of the Democratic party no matter what--I'm not worried about them. It's the potential new voters that I think it will affect.

This just doesn't make my attempts to win over new voters any easier.x(
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:54 PM
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12. DIFFERENTIATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is a perfect opportunity to point out that Obama leads by example. He has integrity, admits to his faults and works through them. And he has a solid marriage.

This only goes against Obama if we let it.
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tmoore411 Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 12:13 AM
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15. So that was leading by example on FISA and the Energy Bill ??
Man, time was people new what leadership was, not any more. I don't see anything but hopey - changey, with NO LEADERSHIP on any issue. Just because you want to project leadership onto a blank canvas, doesn't make leadership a quality Sen. Obama demonstrates.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 12:28 AM
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17. Rejecting the self-serving gridlock of false political dichotomies is Leadership.
Instead of milking those false dichotomies for patronage, money, and votes, Obama is trying to break the two-party system from the inside, especially by saying the People will be part of defining what is done about the issues. That is, if they get up from in front of the TV and take responsible actions 52/12 not just every 4 years.

Old, authoritarian, top-down processes are becoming obsolete. Thinking that way leads to extinction.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:13 AM
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25. You guys are crawling out of the woodwork tonight. Geez.....
:eyes:
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 01:38 AM
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21. YEs. I could always bring up MCain to the Repukes, too. nt
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 11:46 PM
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10. Not unless he changes his name to John Edwards
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 11:47 PM by FKA MNChimpH8R
If Barack had ever messed around, Michelle would have kicked him in the ass so hard he'd have to unbutton his shirt collar to take a leak.
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 12:11 AM
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14. People will just think, well at least dems do it with adults...
...where repukes go after kids, and like to do it in the john.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 12:18 AM
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16. What controversy?
In most cases, the assumption that anyone else's sin is greater than yours/mine/his/her/its is Blasphemy, i.e. claiming to know God's judgement is claiming identity with God.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 01:55 AM
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22. No. and why would it?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:05 AM
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23. It could be a net positive if Obama's team played it right
Edited on Sat Aug-09-08 02:09 AM by depakid
and showed a little moxie.

After all, the opponent doesn't come to the electorate with clean hands... and it wouldn't take much in the way of comment to send the low IQ and low EQ types on the right into a frenzy (which means it gets talked about- and people who didn't know- which is most people- get informed, via their own trusted sources).

Question is, will they do what it takes to win- given nature of the game- or will they simply punt again?

Enquiring minds want to know.
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:12 AM
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24. No.
This is Edwards' personal problem. He's not on the ticket, won't be speaking at the convention, and (probably) won't be in the cabinet. It doesn't affect Obama.

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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:16 AM
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26. Yes it is being "discussed". And another thing is glaringly obvious
that neither of you have donor stars which sets my spidey senses to tingling. hhhhhmmmmm......

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6613721
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:24 AM
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29. picking on people for not donating is pointless, petty, mean, especially in this economy
Edited on Sat Aug-09-08 02:25 AM by FarceOfNature
The decision and ability to donate to DU is a personal and private decision of the member, much as where Edward's chooses to stick his penis.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:38 AM
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31. I was just pointing out that it's usually the "non-donating" members who
seem most "concerned". It never fails. I'm quite sure that like myself, most donating members don't mind supporting this board for it's intended purpose. I just remember being around here before Sen. Clinton dropped out of the race, and her supporters organized a donating hiatus, and some even laughed about the slow pace of the last fundraiser. So you'll forgive me if I'm suspicious of these posters.

I can certainly empathize with those who have been hard hit by this economy, but I just find it odd that they seem to post mostly negativity.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:18 AM
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27. Nope, not at all
but thanks so much for asking.

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Franc_Lee Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:22 AM
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28. Hillary supporter? freeper? which one?
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:27 AM
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30. I think if I posted something like "I just ate sushi for lunch, think it wil affect Obama's numbers"
it would get posts :eyes: Not everything in the known universe is to be evaluated in terms of how it would affect Obama's numbers. Get a hobby.
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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 02:47 AM
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32. It will help
McCain: 'No comment' Fucking A no comment
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