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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 04:15 PM
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Obama Camp - Sit down with T. Boone Pickins and talk energy
He mentioned it on Larry King this week. I hate T. Boone but I think he is right on the Wind/Natural Gas can only help the situation.

Obama mentioned on the stump that he likes the plan. Now he needs to sit down with him.

Anyone heard more about any possibility?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 04:19 PM
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1. He's a snake.
Obama should sit down with energy experts and scientists, not swiftboating businessmen out to get rich on alternative energy.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 04:22 PM
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2. Unfortunately, until "rich people" think there is money to be made
in alternative energy, they will not invest.

No one should ever invest their money, be they rich, middle class or poor, for altruistic reasons. Anyone who does, is a fool or terribly naive.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 04:29 PM
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7. True - that's why I was glad when Gore joined that investment group.
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 04:31 PM
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8. what you said .
I can't believe how naive fellow environmentalists and Dems are about this guy.
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 04:37 PM
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9. Agreed. He's in it to privatize energy resources and make huge profits
Well, he is from the land of enron.
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unfaithful_servant Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 06:07 PM
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15. So True
Edited on Sat Aug-09-08 06:10 PM by unfaithful_servant
Develop energy policy without him, or do like FDR did with old Joe Kennedy and put Pickins in charge of developing new regulations that will prevent energy monopolies and oligopolies.

We don't need the "investment" of the wealthy class to develop alternative energy. The federal government should fund its own research and keep the profits for itself.

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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:21 PM
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17. Bingo.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 04:15 AM
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24. GUARANTEE Mr. T Bone has a buttload of money
Edited on Mon Aug-11-08 04:15 AM by mtnester
waiting to invest in the new energy

T Bone is all about T Bone and how he can sell making billions of dollars HIMSELF to the gullible and hard pressed masses.


on edit - there is no "h" in "buttload"
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 04:22 PM
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3. No. There are better people to listen to than somebody who wants to become the 21rst century
robber baron .

There are a lot of very qualified people to talk to throughout the country.

Also, I do not think Obama said he liked Pickens plan.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 04:24 PM
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4. Obama only said that T. Boones was more knowledeable than McCain
on the issue of Wind and alternative energy. That's how far as he went.

He was basically hitchhiking on Picken's multi million dollar PR project without committing to any of T. Pickens' proposals except for those he agrees with.......alternatives via wind and solar.
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unfaithful_servant Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 09:26 PM
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18. Not much of a compliment
McCain only knows what the energy lobbyists tell him.

Good response from Obama. I hope he doesn't listen to T Boone. The man has made a career out of being untrustworthy.

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 04:25 PM
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5. T. Boone is now running commercials here in the great state of California for his
new energy prop, i was also polled on that prop. No thanks T. Boone, the answer is no.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 04:28 PM
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6. When Al Gore was asked about this plan he said that every little bit
helps.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-08 10:51 PM
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19. Al GFore also raises many questions that showed he was not
impressed with the plan - but was impressed with the wind power
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 04:38 PM
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10. The man strikes me as untrustworthy. I'd be careful of T.Boone Pickins.
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Youphemism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 05:05 PM
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11. Pickens strikes me as three years and two ears away from being Ross Perot...

It wouldn't be bad to adopt a very aggressive program for windpower, particularly in the midwest, but I think Obama should be careful about being closely associated with that guy.
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az chela Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 05:43 PM
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12. OK what everyone needs to know is that I read his plan
And he says he is going to get the water rights from half the land in texas thru eminent domain and sell it to the big cities.He will make another few billion
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 05:46 PM
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13. He'll also make certain the REAL innovators are cut out.
Anyone familiar with Willie Nelson turning over all his rights to his songs just because he couldn't by with his early brilliance?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 08:07 PM
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16. Correction
From land in Texas, sitting atop the Oglala Aquifer. The Oglala Aquifer is the largest underground water resource in the US. It covers 8 states. EIGHT STATES. T Boone wants to drink the milkshake from 8 states.
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-09-08 06:04 PM
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14. Good god I hope not.
T. Boone Pickens is one of the main reasons why bush* was given a second term. I wouldn't give him the time of day. Fuck him.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 12:39 AM
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20. You have to talk to him, otherwise the mouthbreathers
think you're not serious or won't listen to the experts.

You just ride it as far as you're willing to let it take you. In the short term T. Boone is adding legitimacy to renewable sources. Let that play out and get the rockheaded at least open to some new ideas.

Of course we don't want to make Pickens our Overlord but an oil man flooding the airwaves with the simple phrase "This one problem we won't be able to drill our way out of" is a good thing for advancing towards renewable energy.

I see no reason not to nationalize energy. Especially with utilities, there is no competition whatsoever. The market forces have no effect. This is all a sham to make some people a lot of money by extorting the public.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 12:53 AM
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21. use him for all he's worth, cause people are listening to his energy ideas, THEN, after
Edited on Mon Aug-11-08 12:53 AM by Gabi Hayes
the election, and dump his lying, swiftboating ass
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CrazyDude Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 02:54 AM
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22. How to kiss ass so you're not swift boated n/t
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Arnold Judas Rimmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 03:06 AM
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23. I think Pickens' ads are a good thing in and of themselves.
His money and Republican "street cred" got the message onto radio stations that would have never touched such an ad otherwise, and even though Pickens true goals here are no doubt leaving a newer greener energy empire to his heirs, facts are facts, and it may be the only way these right wing numbskulls hear them.

But I wouldn't say I want him writing energy policy. That's what got us in the mess we're in right now.
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