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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 04:58 PM
Original message
So what does the Democratic Platform say about sexism?
Edited on Mon Aug-11-08 04:58 PM by Kerry2008
Just wondering...
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:00 PM
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1. Where is this coming from?
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:00 PM
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2. I'm simply asking.
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:13 PM
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36. Right.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 11:23 PM
Response to Reply #36
51. Yeah, right. Got a problem?
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:01 PM
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3. "What's wrong wif' bein' sexy?"


Let's HOPE it doesn't say that.
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musicblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #3
18. LOL!
:rofl:
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:43 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. No, Nigel...sexIST! SexIST!
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:31 PM
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46. That guy doesn't look sexy.
Looks like a drugged out, over made up dinosaur rocker.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:38 AM
Response to Reply #46
59. Ummmm....
I guess you've never seen "This is Spinal Tap"?
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 05:57 AM
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66. check my handle
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 11:07 AM
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68. Whoops! I missed that. I thought you were serious.
I always wished Nigel would get that job in the haberdashery. I think he'd be truly happy there.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:43 AM
Response to Reply #46
60. Oh dear. - must be a
Hillary "supporter" nuh?
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:15 PM
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4. Anybody know? n/t
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:34 AM
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63. You could read the platform, might be on the google, or the other innertubes.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:19 PM
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5. what does it say about obsessive/compulsive disorder?
just wondering...
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:20 PM
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6. Excuse me? n/t
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #5
21. LOL
Perfecto.

- as
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:54 PM
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26. care to clarify before I assume the worst?
:shrug:
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:44 AM
Response to Reply #5
61. I know it specifically has a whole paragraph
on gratuitous divisiveness and how we must all pull together.
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Nipper1959 Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:22 PM
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7. It says
Hillary got screwed. Not that it is true but with the amount of ass kissing being required by the Clintons it would not surprise me.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:23 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. I'm asking a real question, I expect real answers.
I simply want to know.

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pollo poco Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 07:41 PM
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45. you won't get answers here
Sexism doesn't exist. What's the matter with you?
We're all past racism now. There are no other isms.
What's your problem?

(insert stupid sexist joke or graphic here, hahaha)
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:23 PM
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9. I think (paraphrasing)
That it's A-Ok as long as it's used against Senator Clinton to ensure the selection of Senator Obama. I may have some parts wrong, so that's why I'm paraphrasing.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:32 PM
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10. Well here's the first draft to look at...all 54 pages:
http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/Platform%208%207%2008%20%282%29.pdf

Its title: "Renewing America's Promise."

The content is organized thematically. The platform emphasizes, among things, opportunity for women and goes into detail about a panoply of different economy, family and rights issues as they relate to women.

Still needs to be amended and ratified it before the convention.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:36 PM
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11. Thanks for posting this. I appreciate it n/t
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:39 PM
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13. No problem....
I was curious about the platform overall myself.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:41 PM
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15. Yes, me too. I need to sort through it n/t
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:39 PM
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12. It says:
We believe that standing up for our country means standing up against sexism and all
intolerance. Demeaning portrayals of women cheapen our debates, dampen the dreams of
our daughters, and deny us the contributions of too many. Responsibility lies with us all.


Page 12 of the previously linked doc.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:40 PM
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14. Glad to hear it addresses this, thanks for this n/t
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. Wouldn't it have been easier to just read it yourself?
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #17
25. Do you enjoy whining? n/t
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:59 PM
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32. Jebus, that question applies to 90% of all DU posts. why pick on this one?
got a link?

:rofl:
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:26 PM
Response to Reply #32
38. I often ask that on "DU is my Wikipedia" posts.
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:44 PM
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41. for those of us who have been around long enough to remember...
DU really used to be an excellent information exchange and you would get friendly, informational replies to anything from butterfly ballots to butterfly shrimp scampi.

Now, it's 75% a parade of flamefests, talking point spewing, vanity posts, cat appreciation threads (there were ALWAYS a lot of those), or some unholy combination.

Purely my personal opinion (shared by others, though) and no, I don't have a link.

I guess what I really fucking hate about DU 2.0 or 3.0 or whatever this latest model is, is the level of suspicion people have towards the motivations behind why someone asks a question. There are clever trolls here, but honestly most of what I see is an innocent mix of curiosity and naivete.

You will NEVER see me post "thanks for your concern".

Didn't mean for my tirade to be directed towards you specifically; was just venting on a general trend I've noticed that you reminded me of.

Next pet peeve: linking dictionary definitions for complex concepts like "globalization" or "racism" and presenting said definitions as immutable truth. As if God Himself handed down the True Meaning of Things to Webster on the 3rd Day. :eyes:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 11:49 PM
Response to Reply #32
55. i picked on others
:rofl:
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:48 AM
Response to Reply #12
62. Too bad about "the daughters" bit
Sounds patronizing. Sexism effects all of us. Boys as well.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:39 AM
Response to Reply #62
64. Yep.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:41 PM
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16. That it's totally awesome, of course. Obambi will make sure he puts it in there.
Stupid man-controlled party.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #16
20. Exactly. The penis-havers aka Gods...
Completely encourage it as it is the only reason Obama won. This is how the penis-havers control the ultra weak, pathetic women, henceforth known as "victims".

Holy shit... theres a couple clouds outside. One looks like a dog. The other? Its sexism!!!11!!
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #20
24. BWAH-HAHAHA!
'Penis-havers.'

That cracked me the fuck up, b.

- as
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #24
39.  :D
Only my best friends call be B. Youre IN! :D
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 11:27 PM
Response to Reply #39
52. Happy to be included.
Like I said before, you rawk.

- as
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #20
43. Is it shallow to love you for that post alone?
:rofl:

I need to change my skirt now and I'm only half-joking.

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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #20
47. Hey, I've had LOTS of penises. And I always give them back when I'm done.
True, they may have shrunk a bit... :shrug:
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #47
50. Shrunk a bit?
I'm pretty sure they are usually self regenerating, unless you're referring to the latex/silicone kind, in which case I might suggest using more lube, and less friction...

Unless that's your kind of thing, of course.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #16
27. Yes, let's my mock my question. Do you ever use your brain or...?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #27
37. Too often, really.
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:49 PM
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22. probably the same thing every other party says...
that it's bad. Why would they say anything else? Women are 50% of the population, the parties need their votes.

It's the same for racism or anything else. They will say what they need to get votes, period.

I'm definietely not saying the Party is sexist or that any leaders of it are either. I'm just saying they would say no to sexism/racism/ageism no matter what because they need those votes.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:50 PM
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23. Your avatar begs the question...
Is shitting on your wife via public humiliation a sexist thing to do? Signs point to yes.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #23
28. What does the Clintons have to do with my question about the Democratic platform?
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:39 PM
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40. Because clearly your concerned about sexism....
The only ones trumpeting that now are Hillary supporters who blame Obamas win on sexism against Hillary.

I think its pretty ironic that one of the most prominent sexists of our time gets trumpeted around here as if he's some sort of god. Meanwhile, he treats his wife like trash... fucks her over... and lies to the country. Yet the supporters of the woman he screwed over the most defend him to the death.

Its almost too twisted for me... and I'm really twisted.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:45 PM
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42. Don't assume and don't lump me into any group. I asked a simple question, I was curious.
Edited on Mon Aug-11-08 06:46 PM by Kerry2008
I would also love to know what the Platform says about racism, but some one posted a link...so I think I'll read it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 10:15 PM
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48. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 11:53 PM
Response to Reply #48
56. i need an ass-kicking
:hide:
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 03:57 AM
Response to Reply #48
65. BOTS?
Edited on Tue Aug-12-08 03:57 AM by davidpdx
I guess your not over it.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 07:03 PM
Response to Reply #65
84. I was not a Obamabot or Hillbot
I WAS/AM DISGUSTED BY BOTH
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:52 PM
Response to Reply #40
44. umm....being concerned about sexism is not tied to whomever happens to win the nomination
to suggest that only disenfranchised Hillary supporters give a shit about what the Democratic party says and does about women's rights and the real, tangible problems inherent in our culture is fucking STUPID and you should be ashamed.

Through this logic you also indirectly paint Obama as somehow not responsible for tackling sexism; I'm sure many Obama supporters would point out that he is certainly concerned for women's rights above and beyond electioneering.

I really, truly hope you don't actually reduce systematic, institutionalized inequalities and our party's response and plans to deal with them as solely the concern of "Hillary supporters who blame Obamas win on sexism against Hillary".

Personally, I think Hillary was awful and her campaign set women back for a myriad of reasons. But that's not the point here; your attitude towards anyone bringing up the issue of sexism is.

Disgusting. Get a grip.
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:55 PM
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29. That all MEN are created equal??
(sorry, couldn't resist)!
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:57 PM
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30. some of the replies on this thread are just fucking bizarre.
and no, I'm not a PUMA :eyes:
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:59 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. I know, right? Ask a simple question, and they mock you.
I was curious. I guess you can't ask questions here.
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:03 PM
Response to Reply #31
33. the real issue is that "we" all think we are post-gender, post-race etc.
and the party, because we have Obama nominated, is in some sort of United Colors of Benetton Utopia. As such, anyone even mentioning sexism is a disenfranchised Hillary supporter cum PUMA, and anyone mentioning race is somehow trying to pigeonhole Obama into his ethnicity. It's frustrating.
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:10 PM
Response to Reply #31
35. it was a weird sounding question
You should have been more specific and asked for a quote from a paper or something not so general.

Because your question came off almost as a joke topic, you got a lot of joke replies.

EX 1-

Q- So what does the Democratic Platform say about sexism?
Just wondering
A- (trying to be funny) that it's good

EX 2-

Q- So what does the Democratic Platform say about sexism?
Does anyone have a specific quote from a doctrine stating what the Democratic party believes?
A- (most likely a real answer)

who knows though, maybe you would have gotten joke replies either way.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 11:54 PM
Response to Reply #31
57. we're all a bit sensitive after a rough primary season
present company included. :hi:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #30
49. shows you what passes for "progressives" now
it is pretty fucking sad
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #49
77. I'm sorry, that is not an appropriate response, Comrade.
I will respond again after researching your posting history and deciding whether or not you have ulterior motives for your comment. In the mean time, please report to headquarters.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #77
83. LOL
so DUers who don't goose-step to a certain view get "THE TREATMENT". GOOD LUCK WITH THAT! :rofl:
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 07:06 PM
Response to Reply #83
86. Comrade Skittles, I do not find your attitude appropriate to Party behavior.
you DO know I'm shitting you right?! It's hard to tell these days....
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 07:08 PM
Response to Reply #86
87. WOOOOOO!!!
I DIGS YOUR STYLE!!! :thumbsup:
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 07:11 PM
Response to Reply #87
89. :D
I heart you too, Comrade Skittles, in a Party-approved manner. :evilgrin:
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 07:04 PM
Response to Reply #30
85. You obviously don't know the OPs posting history,
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 07:09 PM
Response to Reply #85
88. that's the point, there are tens of thousands of you.
I'm sure there are trolls, but the mods will deal with them if they're "dangerous" or "disruptive".I'd rather just give someone the benefit of the doubt, and I have better things to do than research the posting history of someone I don't like so I can justify my snarky little outbursts.

But hey, it's a free board, do what gets you off.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #85
90. Nice to see you again, Wolsh.
:hi:
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:03 PM
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34. I don't know, ask Dean.
Actually, better not, he said that he didn't watch any cable TV. Therefore, he didn't notice any sexism in the press.

:eyes:
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 11:46 PM
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53. For someone who keeps saying "forget the primaries" this is an odd question.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #53
58. Whats does my post about the PLATFORM have to do with that? n/t
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:24 PM
Response to Reply #58
74. Oh please, I'm not that stupid - and neither are you.
Don't insult me by playing games.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #74
76. Don't assume things about other people n/t
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #76
81. LOL!
:rofl:
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 11:47 PM
Response to Original message
54. worried that the Platform is no longer against sexism?
just wondering.
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 06:01 AM
Response to Original message
67. Sexism
only exists in the eyes of bitter and useless old hags, donchaknow.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 11:10 AM
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69. You must have a point. Otherwise we'll find out when the platform comes out.
But I'm sure the Democratic party is against it and especially our nominee. Don't you?
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 11:12 AM
Response to Reply #69
70. My point? I just wanted to know, because I was curious.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 11:12 AM
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71. Do you think the party would put in a plank saying they support sexism?
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 12:28 PM
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73. I'm asking a SIMPLE question, and that's what does it say about sexism.
Of course it won't endorse sexism. I know that.

I just wanted to know what it said on the issue.

And I got my answer, so enough of your defensive B.S.
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SurfingAtWork Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 11:25 AM
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72. I'm just positive that your inquiry is innocent as a babe in the woods
However very coincidentally 95% of the time when someone asks a snarky flamebait question, that question is usually followed by "just askin", or "just wonderin". That may explain the defensive responses you've recieved.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 02:31 PM
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75. Too fucking lazy to actually Google it and read it yourself?
Democrats will fight to end discrimination based on race, sex, ethnicity, national origin, language, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, age and disability in every corner of our country, because that's the America we believe in....

We are committed to ensuring full equality for women: We reaffirm our support for the Equal Rights Amendment, recommit to enforcing Title IX, and will urge passage of the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 04:02 PM
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79. DUers are such kind people.
:eyes:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 04:01 PM
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78. To paraphrase brother Hezekiah: You know what the platform has to say about sexism...It's against it
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 04:04 PM
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80. Obviously. I wanted to know in text what it says.
But thanks anyway.
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