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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:42 PM
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Ugh!! CNN's Candy Crowley and Steve Hayes are saying crisis in Georgia
favors McBush politically. Candy commented that Obama is in Hawaii vacationing and showing up in a sweatsuit and that doesn't look presidential. Hayes is gushing about how McBush was ahead of the curve in slamming Valdimir Putin months ago.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:44 PM
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1. Hey, Candy and Steve!
Obama is more in touch with what's going on in the world (even while wearing a sweatsuit) than McBush is EVER!

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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:45 PM
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2. Because his top foreign policy advisor is a foreign agent of Georgia, no doubt.
:wtf:
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:45 PM
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3. oh that liberal media
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:46 PM
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4. The media will ALWAYS say that any conflict favors McCorpse and
puts Obama at a disadvantage--because that's the pre-set narrative. They said the same thing when Bhutto was killed.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:46 PM
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5. THe fact is. Most Americans think we should stay out of shit like this
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:47 PM
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8. Exactly. Count me among the many Americans who don't take comfort
in McCorpse's reckless tough-guy bullshit against Russia.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:47 PM
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6. Candy is a total waste. Barack called for attention to this situation months ago.
They just love their corporate masters, don't they?
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:47 PM
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7. First the media bitches Obama looks too presidential
Now they bitch that he's not acting as president.

What is it?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:48 PM
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11. It is neither nor.........
it is whatever is good for McCain.

Candy needs to become part of McCain's campaign......I mean, they should pay her for her work on CNN. Objective her ass! :eyes:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:42 AM
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42. it's "which" is it...
:hi:
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:47 PM
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9. Bush gave them the green light, is it too paranoid to think he told them to attack to help McCain?
http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2008/08/what-did-we-tel.htmlIf this is true, whoever is responsible should be banned from foreign policy for the rest of his or her natural life:

"Mr Saakashvilli may also have banked on support from his closest ally, US president George W Bush, whose administration is said to have given tacit support for a Georgian assault on South Ossetia in the believe that the territory could be recaptured within 48 hours."

And I suspect that it, or something like it, is likely to be true. Ask yourself this: would the Georgians not have given us any hint that they planned an assault on South Ossetia? I think that's really unlikely. In any case, if they didn't tip us off before getting into a shooting war with Russian troops (who were in South Ossetia as peacekeepers), that should, in my book, put paid to the idea of them as good potential allies.

If they did, what did we say in response? There are things we could have said that would have deterred any but the most completely suicidal Georgian leader. Saakashvili has been unbelievably reckless, but it would have been orders of magnitude more stupid to do what he did had we said, clearly and emphatically, not just that if he did this, he was on his own, but also that taking this step would seriously damage his relationship with us, and would put paid to his hopes of joining NATO in the foreseeable future.

Which is to say: we had a lot of leverage. It is hard to believe either that we didn't know this was going to happen, or that we used our leverage to prevent it. And that is inexcusable. Thousands of people are dead, the freedom of action of Russia's neighbors has been drastically reduced, and our own credibility, such as it was, has been badly damaged.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:48 PM
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10. Corporate Media Doing What They Do Best... Shill for the Republicans
who are the most corporate friendly out of both political parties.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:49 PM
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12. And Bush playing volleyball IS presidential?
Fuckwit.
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:49 PM
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13. It's not a fucking CRISIS! It's a fucking WAR!
Edited on Mon Aug-11-08 05:53 PM by eshfemme
Just some of the incompetence the MSM has can be found in the little bits of sophistry they engage in-- that's a really huge (and bad) side effect of being under Bush rule for 8 years. Before Bush used the 9/11 issue to beat them down, they at least were in the habit of questions something. Now, they lack even the basic interrogative techniques.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:55 PM
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14. Obama Is Not President Yet
But when he is, he will have a Sec of state that will do more in 1week then Rice-A-Roni has done in 4years....:grr: :hi:
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:55 PM
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15. Bush policies lost a country
So, how does McCain make the case that he is the guy for this situation? Because he'll continue the same policies that led to it? Bush's tough talking didn't stop it, so McCain's will? Or otherwise he has to admit that the admin messed up.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:56 PM
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16. Yet more proof of how the MSM favors all things republican.
There's no doubt that Candy Crowley is just taking orders from the RNC.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 05:58 PM
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17. McCain was ahead of the curve months ago? Give me a damn break
Months ago he was calling Putin the President of Germany
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:01 PM
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18. I'm sorry but it is true. Obama should cut his vacation short. Shots of him playing golf while
McGaffe and Bush are both speaking out against the invasion make him look detached.


Sorry, but we should all listen to what they are saying. Obama needs to react to this and react quickly.

You know the RW will make TV commercials showing our nominee on vacation while their candidate tries to deal with a crisis.




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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:09 PM
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20. He put out several statements, talked to the Sec of State, who HERSELF is
Edited on Mon Aug-11-08 06:10 PM by wienerdoggie
on vacation. WTF is he supposed to do, come back to the mainland and make...ANOTHER statement? Because making statements is all he can do. And that's all McShitbag is doing, too.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:39 PM
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21. Yes, that is what he is supposed to do. Or put on a suit when he makes his statements from Hawaii
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:49 PM
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26. Dumb. Everyone knows he's on vacation, the American public are fine with that.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:57 PM
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28. Not the undecided voter. Sorry.. this is gonna come back to bite us. Presidents don't get to take
vacations when a emergency presents itself.


He needs to come back and have meetings with his foreign policy advisers. Or fly back to Europe and speak in front of another huge crowd, calling for peace.


I'm sorry but you can't just bury your head in the sand here, not even if that sand is in Hawaii. He looks like he doesn't know what to do or doesn't care about the invasion of a sovereign democratic nation.



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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 07:16 PM
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32. Oh Please. He's not the President right now.
If he gets too involved, he's presumptuous and arrogant. If he stays away, he should be more involved. What the hell do people think this man should do????
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:28 PM
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35. There will be 527 ads with Russian Tanks, McCain n a suit at a podium and Obama golfing
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 08:27 PM
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34. I agree. For most DUers, it doesn't matter, but Independents need to see him
looking very Presidential. He should at least have showed up with a tie on today's shirt with blazer and with something patriotic in the background, like a bunch of flags or maybe some statue commemorating WWII--he's close to Pearl Harbor, after all.

Independents who remember the cold war--Khrushchev pounding his shoe on the table, duck and cover, the Cuban Missle Crisis--are going to want some reassureance, for sure.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:45 AM
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43. Punch Bowl would have been perfect...
It's the only other national memorial cemetery next to Arlington...

The visuals would be STUNNING...
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:42 PM
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38. He looks like he doesn't know what to do? WTF? He's on a long-planned
trip. Standing in front of flags isn't going to make a damn bit of difference. Fly back to Europe? Call for peace? I'm talking to a naive child here.
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LibGranny Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 09:06 AM
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54. Presidents on vacation during a crisis
hmmmmm - so where was bushie during this crisis? Patting a female v-ball player's backside in China! inserting himself into team huddles and generally looking less than presidential, all the while in China! He didn't exactly hurry home to address the situation with all his bluster.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 09:06 AM
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55. He is in the country ~ Hawaii is a state and he has access
to all forms of communication system.

What is it he is not able to handle?

He is not in charge of this situation, Bush is and Condi is -- let them address this mess on their watch.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:06 PM
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19. What are they saying about the drunk president
at the Olympics?
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:45 AM
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44. that's aparently just ducky, as usual...
same shit, same asshole...
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Ed76638 Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:43 PM
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22. This motherfucker McCain had to plagiarize off of Wiki
But Obama is less presidential?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:43 PM
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23. When Obama was in Madison last February, I was standing next to Candy Crowley
I had a press pass and was on the floor of the venue in the closed-off press section and was standing next to Candy Crowley in between her CNN report. I smelled what I thought was a dead rat.

It was her big, fat smelly ass. I kid you not. She's about six feet tall and is nearly 350+ pounds. Let's just say she was very happy at the press poll food table.

:puke:


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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:40 PM
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37. Great story. She probably just came from the restroom.
She couldn't hold it until she got back to her hotel?
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 04:41 AM
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49. I was on the campaign trail and met her too
not a brain in that fat head..

Candy, is that her birth name or a nickname.. She did have one question for me, more declarative than a question, seemed like a question from the pleading in her eyes, she said,

"More Ham?"

"I'm sorry Candy, I don't usually carry HAM with me.."

Then she got the better of me with that razor sharp mind..

"Gravy?"

:)

She really IS Dumb.

Had a best pal about her size, dead now, his weight killed him, stopped breathing in his sleep - only made it to 30 odd years..

That smell you caught was what we called "a Rooster Tail" - that's how the morbidly obese shit, up the Back of the crack, some can't reach that far to wipe. Sorry it sounds so gross, but it's a grim reality.

Being overweight is not what makes her so dumb, look at Wolfie.. He ain't the sharpest tool in the shed either.. Good enough for Govt generated Psyops and that's about it. :)
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 08:50 AM
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53. LOL n/t
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 05:49 AM
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51. Is Candy her real name or her greatest pleasure?
Or both?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:45 PM
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24. Think how the presstitutes would choke on their words if/when Wes Clark's on the ticket
Edited on Mon Aug-11-08 06:45 PM by depakid
Demolishes that narrative in one fell swoop.
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:46 PM
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25. If Obama had been to forceful they would have said he was looking "too presidential"
"Candidates shouldn't issue statements regarding current events" the would say.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:47 AM
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45. "he's undercutting the pResident again"...would be my bet...
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 06:55 PM
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27. The Framers are at it with the Experience Crap....Like McCaine knows what to do?? What makes us
think that??

What war did he win?

26 years in the Senate as a playboy....he has not prepared himself for the job...booze, blondes, and bars are his forte...not policy.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 07:01 PM
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29. Gotta love that frame, Opihi: "what war did he win?"
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 07:06 PM
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31. I recall that response when he declared 2 weeks ago..."I know how to win Wars"
LOL...he actually said that....whad a jerk for him to think we gonna suck for that line.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:48 AM
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47. but losing FIVE FIGHTERS in a row and sitting in a foreign prison...
some "experience"...

being a POW doe NOT equate with "experience" - unless you're running for cellblock president of San Quentin...
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 08:26 AM
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52. The GOP always look for something to make their case...the best they can do for McAnus
is HERO....OK he was a POW....OK Hero...


But President??? Experience???

after listening to him over this past year....I don't think so...

mental light weight
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 07:05 PM
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30. McCain referred to Putin as President of Germany
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 07:27 PM
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33. McCain was practically drooling with glee to speak on his favorite topic
War my friends, war.

I can't wait to hear what song he's going to sing and joke he's going to tell.

And, did you notice his index finger? I found it a bit unsettling, it appeared to me like he was subconsciously pressing that button, over and over again.

It was comforting to see Obama calmly responding to this crisis, in a level-headed manner, while semi-vacationing in Hawaii.

See CNN, we can all play that game.
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:35 PM
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36. It's looks like both of them are right on this.
Why the f$%k did this have to happen now? This kind of thing gives McCain the opening he needs on foreign policy. Obama in Hawaii will be used against him, just like the European trip.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:57 PM
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39. They are Framing, Herding the discussion....McCaine gonna solve this shit..?
When Condi and Bush cannot?

Gimme a fucking break....but then...its all about the photo op....

The dumbest guy in the class against the top guy in a similar class....and we going w dumb?
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:50 AM
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48. obama BREATHING will be used against him...
Edited on Tue Aug-12-08 01:51 AM by TankLV
as well his eating Breakfast, Lunch and Dinner,

walking, blinking his eyes, and sitting down...

snf did you hear the latest - he actually SLEEPS AT NIGHT!!!
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-08 09:58 PM
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40. Three words:
"Securing America's Future."

:hi:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:22 AM
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41. we gonna entrust America to a bar drunk...? canardly speak? WTF?
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 01:47 AM
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46. Creepy Crawley
That woman needs to be shit canned by CNN. She's AWFUL. :puke:
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 04:56 AM
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50. Bush lost Georgia too. He loses everything.
Was Russia this powerful when Dems controlled the country? This is the perfect chance for Obama to undermine the Republican claim to national security. Bush has great for the national security and prosperity of China and Russia. If he loses Georgia to Pooty-poot, I don't see how it can be read as anything but another Bush/Republican disaster.
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sourmilk Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-08 09:06 AM
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56. Paid Propagandists...
All McBloodNGuts had for Georgia was a plagiarised speech.

Come on, people - WAKE THE HELL UP - The doddering McAlzheimer mispeonounced "Saakashvili" THREE FRIGGIN' TIMES!!! What does THIS ONE FACT tell you about how much McDecrepit knows about the Georgian situation?

All I have been hearing from CNN regarding McThuselah is that "He knows the players," and he is a "Foreign Policy Expert."

Give me a friggin' break. He's a foreign policy expert like Bush is a foreign plicy expert.

CLUELESS
CLUELESS
CLUELESS

A good ad for Obama would be to show the following:

-One of these media-morons touting McInsane's vaunted "experience and judgement."
-A short video of McTooDamnOld turing Baghdad Market in 2007, saying that it was "perfectly safe."
-A shock frame shawing bodies, stating that the day after he left, there were 21 people kidnapped and murdered in the same market.
-One of these media-morons saying that McIdiot is a "foreign policy expert."
-McAncientMariner taking his cues from Lieberman re: Al-Qaeda & Iran.
-McMemory confusing “Somalia” for “Sudan."
-McBrainDead confusing the Green Bay Packers with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
-McAin't telling the press about Czechoslovakia.
-A frame stating that Czechoslovakia hasn't existed as a country for 15 YEARS.
-One of these media-morons saying that McTooFuckingOld "knows the players."
-Repetition of McInsane attempting to pronounce "Saakashvili."
-Repetition of Shrub attempting to pronounce "Ehud Olmert" and "Mahmoud Abbas."
-Brief frame of McLoser and Bush hugging at the convention.
-Obama's statement on how "proud of their ignorance" the McCain campaign is.
-Repetition of frame of McLoser and Bush hugging at the convention.
-A frame with Obama's logo and "Barack Obama: Change We Can Believe In."
-SLOW FADE with Obama voice over for ad approval.

We really need to bust some heads, figuratively speaking...
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