I believe we should lie to all polls especially exit polls

These crooks are going to steal this election, George can not afford a Dem in the White House. The man responsible for the 2000, and 2004 thefts now works for McCain and the fix is in but he needs good data to know how many votes to flip. So I propose that we all confuse the polls by giving them bad data. The exit polls will probably be their final numbers so if they are wrong then they will not steal enough to win. I think this is our only hope of winning and bring this administration to justice. Any thoughts?

I work for a Democratic-leaning membership organization that uses past exit polls to help figure out how many of its members it needs to persuade and turn out. If you screw around with the exit polls it makes it harder for us to help Democrats win in the future.

lie lie lie

It's a really stupid idea on many levels.

I know that was in the title, just not in my mind....! Before that, sure.

I already give false data when I have no reason of my own to give real data. I also pay cash for everything..... ;->

If and when they try to steal another election!

remove any possibility of showing the discrepancy in the vote tally.

and nothing has happened! There's no reason to think the same things won't happen again.

Exit polls showed 51 Kerry, 48 Bush. Election fraud results showed the opposite.
Kerry was pushed to concede quickly. Lots of different methods of election manipulation were used, so each single instance wasn't considered significant enough to change the outcome at the time. Only a year or two later the study results come in about how much was stolen.


www.uncountedthemovie.com has a lot of information.

Now I want to see Bush booted out and Kerry put in. (Yeah, right.....)

I must admit there's more attention to this issue - I just hope it's enough to keep the same thing from happening in 2008.

There are 5,000 votes "lost" here, and 10,000 uncounted over there for a different reason, and each one sounds like chump change so people can shout us down as "conspiracy theorists" when we call them out.
Those few votes won't make a difference, we were told. Even actually liberal media like David Corn at the Nation told us we were nuts. We had to just recognize the sad truth that Kerry had lost. (I canceled my subscription to the Nation because that was so disheartening.)

We even had TV talk sessions about how those exit polls we have used to judge the fairness of other countries' elections, were somehow all flawed in Bush-Kerry 2004. The consolidated conservative corporate media all dutifully carried out the earnest discussion to soothe our confusion about how the exit polls got things so wrong.

I'm afraid not enough has been done to remedy the problems. I can only hope that the Republicans know they need Democratic leadership to clean up their messes once again. Clinton Gore were needed to clean up the huge Reagan deficits and gave baby Bush a surplus. Now the Spend-and-Tax-the-Kids Republicans need help again, so perhaps they'll allow Obama to claim his victory.

They take the opportunity to throw all those DREs in the harbor. What I'm worried about is that they won't. This does not seem to be a big issue anywhere but the grassroots.

by having the exit polls seem to back a McCain win?

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that if the exit polls showed a discrepancy that cost a *Republican* an election, you can bet it would get taken seriously and investigated. I believe that translates to "you can't win." That's what *their* rulebook says, anyway....

and actually say they voted McCain to exit pollsters with the thought that they are being "clever" as opposed to the fact that they were being "used".

at least I know *I* am. The exit polls don't match the votes, discredit the exit polls. It's worked before, rendering them meaningless. The only thing they seem to be used for in this modern world (with regard to the actual current election, anyway)is to fine-tune the rigging.

The real solution - throw the DREs in the harbor.

help us? Actually, doesn't that help them steal the election for John McCain.

This is a bad idea. Please don't game the system.

in the day. So I'm all for lying during exit polls. Not the the MSM would ever ask who you are voting for on exit polls they got so burned the last time.

Tell the truth, they use it to game the system. Lie, and they investigate if it's *their* guy that doesn't look right in the polls.

The problem is those damn paperless wonders they foisted on us.

the error was in the exit polls.

the gop stole the elections: by putting out exit polls that were favourable to Kerry early in the day so that the GOP voters were motivated to go to the polls while Kerry supporters relaxed and didn't vote at the end of the day. That is how I think it was stolen. Lying GOP voters at exit polls.

and that it *worked*?

Wow. Any additional info/links on this theory? I'm interested.

ahead Kerry was in the exit polls until about 10:00 PM that election night. And though I think nobody should answer exit polls (like the OP said) that is as far as I agree with him. But I don't even think the MSM asks the question "who did you vote for" because they were so burnt in 2004.

in the first three or four in line when the poll opens. I've never been "exit-polled", maybe pollsters don't get up that early.

The bad part is that I'm always done before the campaigners get out there passing out leaflets, coffee, and donuts. I'm willing to sell my vote for a chocolate covered donut.

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