Don't worry...it won't be Biden...

There is no way that "Change" includes bringing a Senate lifer on your ticket...Especially one as "in the pocket" as MBNA Joe...

Just more M$M speculation...Poor things have 80+ days to fill up with their self-important pronouncements and Obama put-downs...

and many here at DU. Clark is the best option and Obama and his team know it.

a powerful combination...
we'll know soon!

I don't think that I have ever seen Rachel be wrong. Peace, Kim

She's getting better...

implying that she knew that he was likely VP...he responded that he wasn't sure if he was going...but he had "plans" to go to Milan during convention week...

Everybody is going to have to tell me how TOTALLY AWESOME I am when it is, too.....

:rofl:

Every single person who has been floated as a possible nominee has had somebody knock them down on DU. It's clear that whoever he chooses there will be those who don't like it. I'll support whoever he decides he wants to be #2

Brian Schweitzer? There has been no talk about him in the MSM. He seems like a great guy and he's done some wonderful things for Montana and he's a governor.

who would find a problem with him, too.

Unfortunately, not on the VP night.

I was pushing for Schweitzer hard, and felt he could answer the FP experience concerns because of his living in the ME, speaking and language, doing business with them, and UNDERSTANDING the culture.

Either Obama didn't listen to me, or Schweitzer didn't want to move to DC with Jag.

But I think the Russia/Georgia situation throws a wrench into the works. We now have Russia giving us an ultimatum - "choose us or Georgia".
:scared:

So we do need someone with FP cred on the ticket. Biden, Clark, Richardson.

I'm still disappointed about Schweitzer, but thrilled he'll be at the convention so others can see what an outstanding guy he is! :hi:

I LOVE Wes Clark, I really do, and think he would be a fanastic VP ... I get the sense that he is a bit of DU pipe dream ...

I think Biden is a good/bad choice ... I get where people are coming from that he will be a good "attack dog" but he also is liable to say something stupid, and again, IMO, the media has already branded him as being a "gaffe machine" and will create a gaffes if he doesn't actually make one, and then hammer BO for picking a loose cannon ...

NOW, as well all know, they are going to find a negative frame for ANYONE BO picks, I just can see Biden's plain as day ...

I still think Bayh is the best pick, a fantastic resume and his negative frame (boring) is both rather benign AND somethiing that is clearly mitigated by the top of the ticket ... And, as much as so many people here want to pan it, the polling clearly indicates that Indiana is in play with BO being right next door in Illinois, and Bayh IS a guy who has a very real chance of making up the 1-2 points it might take to flip Indiana ...

The math is the math - McCain has basically given up Iowa already ... If BO holds all the Kerry states and bags Iowa/Indiana, it is game/set/match ... I take Bayh and the bird in the hand ...

I do NOT like Kaine, I think that he is the weakest candidate floating around ... But even if it is Kaine, I will support BO's pick totally ...

Please?

:)

...Bayh, or Kaine would be VERY disappointing choices...

...Senate, and he does what his coroporate masters tell him (MBNA - Bankruptcy Bill)...Other than sitting on committee's what does he bring?

OK, you've clearly made up your mind.

...other than that he's been a rubber-stamp for his benefactors and not much else...He's also not exactly a stand-up pro-choice guy either...

Don't get me wrong, I think the guy is likeable enough...as long as he stays in the Senate...

why keep embarassing yourself?

..make him a true progressive right?

Like I said, he's a nice enough guy, but he should stay in the Senate..

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE1DD1230F93AA15756C0A96F948260

Research much?

Oh really....is that why he aplogized afterwards? :eyes:

had on tape. Ask Keith Olberman if you don't believe us.

ONE TIME. Jeez, do you even know the whole story? Go look it up.

I hate people who use half-truths, and facts.

I was a Biden field staffer in 1987.

He attributed the quote to Kinnock on dozens of occasions. In a single afternoon, I saw him give that speech three times, and he attributed it to Kinnock each and every time. On one occasion, he got sloppy, and took a verbal short cut.

A twenty year old brain fart is grounds to dismiss him as VP?

...

We'll just start talking about the Keating 5.

...

There was another poster who says absolute no to him for VP but he'd be great as a Cabinet member.

I don't get you folks. Life is too short for this.

Nothing hateful about the truth..

IWR
MBNA

Biden couldn't win in the primaries and Democrats will win Delaware regardless.

All talk Biden... no way.

I can't put the two of them together in my mind, for some reason. I just see Joe as not being able to let Obama be the boss--because Joe thinks he knows more. I see potential governing conflict there. Yeah, they both have big egos, all politicians do, but I will always remember Joe pointedly looking bored and reading a newspaper during Obama's Petraeus questioning last September--he wasn't just reading it on his desk, he was holding it up so that the cameras caught it. Some reporters noted it--it seemed an obvious put-down. I get an uneasy sense that Joe won't take a backseat. I think Bayh would be a better choice, if only for the fact that Bayh and Obama seemed to get along.

getting frustrated with Petraeus for not answering Obama's questions. He said something like "that's not what he asked".

:shrug:

on edit - my point being that Biden was interested in Obama's line of questioning.

so he could have time to ask his questions and then get to a campaign event on time?

n/t

Sorry - a Delawarian isn't going to be endearing to them.

We can't Whistle Past Dixie.

one that I can see. Not Mr Liberation of Iraq, and not Kaine.

nd, politician for life, whore for the credit card industry, plagiarist ...

as well.

We have enough anti choice senators in the party. We don't need another one in the VP slot.

I've looked up data on opensecrets.org and fec.gov and I'm not seeing where the contributions over the last 2 decades are large compared to what other candidates get, particularly from major employers in their state.

The guy voted for the war... how clueless did a "foreign policy expert" have to be to make that blunder.

And I wouldn't trust him to manage a home security system, let alone represent foreign policy on the ticket.

Joe Biden---95% score from League of Conservation voters. :)

Last score for Chuck Hagel---14%. x(



The VP is a heartbeat away.

Where on earth did I EVER push Chuck Hagel for VP?!?!?!?!

I call absolute bullshit on this accusation.

I posted a thread saying "IF all that matters is WINNING pick Chuck Hagel as VP"

It was a rant on the idea of people saying that the VP slot doesn't matter and Obama should just pick someone who guarantees him victory... Those who are a little less intellectually curious read the title and thought... OMG A PRO HAGEL THREAD!!

It's kinda funny to watch.

Ever notice that a lot folks bitch about Republicans and the way they do things while employing the same tactics?

I'm just curious about the hey that would be made over a Republican having the same anti choice stances as Biden does. Many of these folks would claim we should all rally around the party to stop it.

None the less, just don't pay attention to the very folks that sell us out on these key issues. Just nominate the guyu for VP!!!!

Just curious where you get your information from.

I think Biden is the best choice. But As long as it isn't Clinton or Bayh I will live with whoever he picks.

that is why they are pushing Bayh and others they are trying to run on foreign policy and they don't want anyone to who is knowledgable about it. I already don't like the fact that they will wait until Obama chooses his pick..

But then, What do I know about Wes Clark and Barack Obama? :shrug: