Don't Tune in to Black Radio if You Want to Avoid Harsh Things Said About the Clintons Today...

They are roasting Hillary and Bill Clinton over an open flame for this nomination crap. It's bad y'all. Real bad.

Tom Joyner and Michael Baisden are syndicated. There aren't a lot of black syndicated radio stations in the country. Anyway...

But you can go here to see what people are saying about the news story: Look to the right under "discuss"

http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/movingamerica08/clintonsname815

or go here

http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/movingamerica08/clintonsname815?view=Forum

Or are you just generalizing ALL Black radio all over the country?

and thought that she would actually be on the ticket come November, but they got it straightened out. Pissed off doesn't even begin to explain.

Real not listening to Barack?

That kind of real?

They deserve it imo.

could have set them off. Don't they understand that Hillary's supporters have not been respected.

In fact, every black person I've spoken to about this is spitting fire.

Apparently because Obama gave it the okay I'm supposed to STFU and like it. But what exactly was he supposed to do? It's not like if Clinton put her name in he's really in a position to say "no." HE doesn't really have any control over that and if he had said that he didn't think that Clinton putting her name is was a good idea, they'd say he was ungracious and it would still be a mess.

Now we have the prospect of the MSM discussing nothing but the "divided convention." You'd think that being elected President as a black man was so easy that he could afford to do things that make his job that much more difficult.

Obama has bent over backwards to accommodate Clinton how much more does he have to do in the name of "party unity?" Especially considering the disrespect that's been thrown his way. This is ridiculous!

On the other hand, we black people always vote Democratic for the most part so what's a little disrespect between friends right? :sarcasm:

I fear I cannot adequately explain how much this frosts me.

Regards

Clinton were the nominee, I don't believe you WOULDN'T want Obama's name placed in nomination.

And if Clinton were the nominee and there'd been a joint announcement yesterday that Obama's name was being placed in nomination, there wouldn't be complaints on black radio...but there'd be screaming if Obama wasn't on the ballot at the convention.

The Republicans want nothing more than to play up the nonsense that having a traditional roll call vote makes this a "divided convention." Please don't fall for their propaganda.

NOT having a roll call vote in this situation would be much more divisive.

And I'm stunned to see that even after the Obama and Clinton camps issued that joint statement, so many DUers are still completely irrational about this.

but there'd be screaming if Obama wasn't on the ballot at the convention.

There's ALREADY screaming, man.

And since we're making wild and baseless predictions, I PREDICT that even if Obama had lost, he would have the grace, dignity and CLASS even if every single one of his supporters were screaming for his name to be on the ballot to respectfully and graciously DECLINE out of respect for the rightful nominee.

There's nothing unusual about the roll call vote

Perhaps not, but there is something VERY unusual about a black presidential nominee from either party in THESE United States. But I guess it would have been asking too damn much for there to have been any acknowledgment or support of that by having his name be the only one on the nominating ballot. A celebration of how far this country has come just apparently cannot happen without having the 2nd place name on the ballot too.

I'm stunned to see that even after the Obama and Clinton camps issued that joint statement, so many DUers are still completely irrational about this.

I'm stunned that anyone would not realize Obama HAD NO CHOICE in the matter and is doing what he has to do to survive. Lots of blacks have similar stories of unreasonable compromise in an effort to keep the peace as well. His is no different.

So, are you trying to say that race trumps gender?

It seems to me a double standard.

running on her husband's record.

But that's just me.

Regards

She's far more than simply a former first lady.

But we could have had someone else were it not for the NY Democratic machine. I do not underestimate Senator Clinton at all but my comment still stands.

Regards

Obama won. Hillary did not.

How far she ALMOST got is irrelevant. She got a high-profile speaking slot at the convention and props from democrats everywhere. Considering the fact that she ALMOST won despite being the heavy favorite to pull if off in a landslide, I think that should have been more than enough.

White women are the most worshiped females on the planet. They are not feared or distrusted by people like certain black males are.

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Loser should respect winner, not force winner to give loser 3 prime time slots by riling up supporters.

Hillary shows no respect. She is stealing the spotlight from the winner. I have a feeling this is the last straw for black voters. She really blew it.

Well said!

Regards

and that is EXACTLY why there has to be a roll call vote -- because otherwise many of her supporters will believe that her campaign and those 18 million votes are being dismissed as trivial.

You also seem completely unaware that what's MOST historic about this primary race was that the two strong candidates who finished with approximately equal number of votes did better than ALL the white male candidates in the race, all of whom were pretty good candidates.

So it would be very foolish, and blind to the importance of this election year, to pay attention to only what Obama accomplished, or only what Clinton accomplished.

He's clearly aware of that. I wish more of his supporters were.

So it would be very foolish, and blind to the importance of this election year, to pay attention to only what Obama accomplished, or only what Clinton accomplished.

Hillary achieved LOSING. Those "18 million" voters voted for Hillary and THAT was when their voices were heard. Why they need to be heard again and again and again I will never understand. But you know what?? In spite of her 18 million voices, SHE LOST. That's what she achieved. She came close to winning but SHE DID NOT.

Obama ran a historic campaign AND WON. I cannot make it any more plain that that. If you think that the LOSER demands the props, lauding and real estate of the WINNER, then I truly have no idea what else to say to you.

If it did We would still be celebrating George Wallace's misplaced run for the presidency in 1968. Team Clinton failed to grasp the fact that she lost--just like Edwards, Kucinich, Biden, Dodd, Richardson and Gravel. Yet they're not insisting that this was an "important" election year that requires they get top billing at the convention. The Clinton's like to put on a show and I guess that is what Obama is going to honor.

You'd think that being elected President as a black man was so easy that he could afford to do things that make his job that much more difficult.

Obama has bent over backwards to accommodate Clinton how much more does he have to do in the name of "party unity?" Especially considering the disrespect that's been thrown his way. This is ridiculous!

I agree. Completely.

She's entitled to have her name placed in nomination. It's symbolic, do not fear, she's not trying to stage a coup and "steal" the nomination from Obama.

Geez...........

:eyes:

the only thing left for Obama to do is to drop out of the race. That is the only thing that would satisfy hillary's supporters. Funny thing is, if that was to happen she would surely lose.

My God, the woman said the reason she was staying in the race is because something bad could happen to Obama like it did to the Kennedy's. I am paraphrasing of course but I am sure everyone remembers that Great moment.

better today. All I have to say is if Bill Clinton thinks this will repair his relationship with blacks, he is wrong. He should have convinced his wife to drop it.

It could hurt her senate campaign, which is unfortunate

HRC is not going anywhere. She needs a well known challenger and no one is really going to challenge her.

I'll be looking for her primary challenger.

Regards

Even though every guy did it before her, including Dean in 2004 and he only had a little more than 140 pledged delegates.

But Hillary? Oh no, how DARE she want the same as everyone else, particularly when she's only 127 PDs behind Obama?

Nope, mean Hillary should not have the same right as every other candidate before her.

What the F**CK is the matter with some of you???????

it's the preamble - it's how she IS, how she was in the past during the primary.
a liar and a two faced one.

combine her history of deciet and backstabbing and then add in the nom thing, then there is a problem. the problem is Hillary, not the process.

I totally reject every analysis you, and other Obamites, have made. But I'd like to thank you for acknowledging that history contradicts the suggestion that HRC is being pampered and that this is really about setting up a new standard in order to deny Hillary what others have been allowed.

Steve

Your threshold for good behavior must be really very low.

Clinton's campaign was disgusting especially so for a primary campaign.

Regards

As I mentioned in another thread, your numbers are always just SOOO very off-base. I wonder why that is???

Oh no, how DARE she want the same as everyone else, particularly when she's only 127 PDs behind Obama?

"Obama finished the race with a 364-delegate lead over Clinton, according to an Associated Press tally."

Look it up. I have always liked Hillary and always will. But her choice to toss her name into the nominating ring just a few months after foolishly dragging out the primary when there was no chance of her winning strikes me as opportunistic and vaguely shameful.

What the F**CK is the matter with some of you???????

And do you really want to play this cursing game??? With ME??? Are you sure about that???

You don't give a damn about how a number of us think as long as we think the way you want us to.

Good luck with that.
:sarcasm:

Regards

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I am physically ill with this

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Perhaps they'd learn a little something about how some of us think since a lot of folks out there damn sure don't get it.

Regards

And they're being assholes if they have a problem with Democrats following tradition and they're encouraging others to feel equally insecure and frightened that something is being taken away from Barack Obama.

It's fine to have the roll call and go through various motions if that makes some people feel better, but if anyone disrupts the Democratic National Convention or OUR (meaning the Democrats, us, the single team we're all on) convention and puts the White House at risk I am going to take it personally and be very, very angry with the Clintons.

I hope they know what they are doing because this is NOT "all about Bill and Hillary." Barack Obama is our candidate and I'm behind him 100% and anyone who is still nursing resentments or thinking about being a turncoat should just come out for McCaint right now and get it out in the open.

And that's the word from "white internet" today.

I'm AA and it's not all about color for me. I voted twice for Bill and even meet him at Ft. Bragg during the Desert Storm conflict when he visited the troops, but I have to say since South Caolina and beyond I have no respect for him. Barack won fair and square even with the kitchen sink being thrown at him.

I'm tired of their egotistical behavior. I too voted for Clinton twice, and although I was very disappointed in his affair with Monica and felt he should have resigned (which would have probably won the White House easily for Gore in 2000), I had forgiven Bill his transgressions. I liked his speech at the 2004 convention. I agree with you that his bad behavior resumed with the South Carolina primary.

It's time for the Clintons to show some grace.

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There is almost universal dislike of the clintons, especially Bill right now. I say almost b/c i don't know every AA but everyone I do know is livid. Bill will never regain the trust that he had with us.

When Obama is poling so close to McCain and there are stories everyday about the Clintons and PUMA on the news, they have to know what this means. She could have shut this down easily this summer by releasing her delegates and saying absolutely not to this. She could have shown grace, which is what Obama would have done and it would have probably gotten her the VP spot easily. This only disrupts the convention at a time where the MSM will run any negative story about Barack and ignores McCain's BS. I will be a NY voter starting next year an trust me I will have a long memory. If this kind of thing costs him the election I will work my ass out for her next challenger, whoever he/she is.

this have to do with race?

You mean like Clinton's supporters?

but its not complex at all
saying an AA has a persecution complex given our countries history is a little understating

...are showing their asses because of it?

I've had it with their grandstanding.

Regards

Forcing one's way into the limelight instead of bowing out gracefully is showing one's ass. But there's no end to the excuse making for the Clintons so it's not like I'm surprised.

Next thing you know you'll be telling me the Clintons have been respectful since she "suspended" her campaign as well.

Regards

Would you prefer they stay home? Yeah, that would look real good.

we have Clinton making a film about herself to celebrate her and make the convention look divided. I'm angry because despite the fact that she lost she's making demands as though she's in a position to do so. I'm annoyed because the Clintons look as though they refuse to hand over the head of the party. I'm irate that the Clintons have not shown our nominee the respect he deserves. I am disgusted with how they've comported themselves throughout this primary and I don't want them raining in on what should be a celebration of Obama. I am tired of the Clintons sucking all of the air out of a room.

The speaking part? I don't give a bloody damn about that. I won't be home to see it anyway. But the nomination part? Formality it may be but it hasn't been done in 16 years and this year of all years is definitely NOT the year to do it. There is way too much at stake here. If McLame gets the white house some of us won't survive the next 4 years and there are way too many people who either don't get it or worse won't get it. Message is everything and the appearance of a divided convention is not an image we can afford to have. This could be the beginning of the end. And this has nothing to do with having faith in Obama. I don't do faith in people. And while I recognize Obama's ability to run a campaign I have NO faith at all in a great number of people in this country since so many have deliberately voted against their own best interest for so many years and that's when we had white candidates on the top of the ticket.

But why take my concerns seriously? According to some I'm just another unnecessarily paranoid black chick with a persecution complex. It's not like I might have something to base it on having lived in this country for nearly 36 years it's all in my head. It's always been in my head because the men with the pointy hats who dress in sheets don't work overtly anymore so racism is dead and buried.
:sarcasm:

Maybe I'm wrong. It could happen; it wouldn't be the first time. I hope for all of our sakes that I am because if I'm not we're in deep shit.

Regards

achievement at the convention. It is called the Democratic convention after all and many Democrats are featured besides the nominee (just look at Obama's speech in 2004 or Warner's keynote speech this year). That doesn't take away from the nominee, it actually helps the nominee by showcasing the strong party he will be leading. Yes, the convention is mainly about the nominee (hence Obama's acceptance at the huge stadium) but it's also about making a strong case for all Democrats and the Democratic brand.

And a lot of us are not going to overlook or forget what the Clintons have done to the "brand" during this election process.

But hey, why not throw up more roadblocks to the white house by making it look like a divided convention? It's not like we don't have any other hurdles to overcome this year? Right?
:sarcasm:

Regards

Gee, do you think that might explain her lack of an endorsement of Obama? Wouldn't it be to HER benefit for McCain to win the election so that she can sweep in in 2012 as Joan of Arc on a white steed to rescue all of us? Digging a hole....this will not be overlooked or forgotten by the Dem Party--ever. I hope her behavior has cost her her senate seat as well.

The only person who has any control over whether Clinton's name goes into nomination is Clinton. What was Obama going to do say he didn't think it was a good idea while she does it anyway?

Please!

Regards

We both know that Obama's will had not a damn thing to do with this. Clinton can put her name in without a whit of input from Obama.

Regards

www.wvon.com it's an indy station. Obama himself did lots of interviews on the station before he got so busy with the campaign. It's too bad they never achieved them.

Darn them.