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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:02 PM
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Poll question: Should Hillary's Name Go Into Nomination @ the Convention?
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:05 PM
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1. Since it's what Obama wants
I'm not quite sure why some people here are trying to second guess him.

I guess they don't trust his judgement.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:14 PM
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5. Could not have said it better, ruggerson.
That's the big point here. :thumbsup:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:16 PM
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7. Word that--and I'm an Obama supporter. Time to kick McKStreet's ass
and honor an unbelievably historic primary that I could never dream I'd see in my lifetime.
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Growler Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:55 PM
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12. I think it's reckless and flames disunity
Edited on Thu Aug-14-08 07:58 PM by Growler
and yes, makes me trust Obama's judgement less.

Edit: the entire point of this is to beat McCain and keep the Supreme Court from falling to the dark side. Anything that threatens that is a distraction. Once again it's all about what Hillary needs, NOT what's good for the country.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:25 PM
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15. Should you be here, promoting disunity, if you're questioning Obama's judgement?
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:29 PM
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18. Last time I checked, questioning was not a problem.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:36 PM
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19. They question every day
loudly and without cease.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:49 AM
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40. Exactly -- questioning Senator Obama ISN'T okay in GDP
So, people who consider themselves supporters of Obama, and who voted "no," have some serious soul searching to do. I posted a thread about this yesterday, but since it wasn't flamey, it sank pretty fast.
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 01:22 PM
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57. Why not question McCain? nm
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:06 AM
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35. The irony of Clinton supporters whining about disunity is staggering.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:13 AM
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52. You just validated my point
you still view everything through the lens of the primary. There are no "Clinton supporters," in terms of this election. She isn't running, she withdrew. There are McCain supporters and Obama supporters.

You perpetuate the division here because that's your modus operandi. That's all you know how to do.

Why bother being here? You contribute nothing but tenth grade flamebait.

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:59 AM
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55. Don't bother with your "there is no spoon" bullshit with me.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:36 AM
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38. Agree 100%. And I rarely agree with you.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 08:02 AM
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50. I do question his judgement.
He gave her everything. He looks weak and that loses elections.

You don't give in to bullies.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:08 PM
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2. Whatever is the norm is fine with me.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:11 PM
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3. It is a done deal now. No reason to second guess it
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:13 PM
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4. Yes, Obama knows what he is doing. He made a great decision.
And it shows that Obama is a leader.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:15 PM
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6. Yes. I'm on board. Let's hope it turns out as great as we think it can.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:19 PM
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8. Sen. Obama Seems To Think So, Sir, And That Is Good Enough For Me
The need of the hour, and of the coming months, is unity in out Party. Clearly from the day's news, Sen. Obama and Sen. Clinton both recognize this.

The posture of 'I support Sen. Obama and hate Sen. Clinton!' is becoming less tenable by the hour as an expression of genuine support for the nominee of the Democratic Party for President of the United States.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:27 AM
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37. How about I support Senator Obama and don't trust Senator Clinton?
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 05:42 AM by JTFrog
Do you have to hate someone to not trust them?

OBAMA has won the nomination.

You aren't really trying to say that one has to like Senator Clinton in order to express genuine support for Barack Obama as the nominee of the Democratic Party for President of the United States are you?

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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:24 AM
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53. I suggest that you don't trust Obama
You can hate Hillary, but if you are freaking out over her name being on the roll, then I say you lack trust in our candidate.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:30 AM
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54. That's a big if.
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 09:31 AM by JTFrog
Everything in your post is a wrong assumption.

Again.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 12:59 PM
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56. There Is No Ambiguity In My Statement, Ma'am
In light of recent events, in light of the statements concerning convention planning coming from Sen. Obama's campaign, in light of the repeated calls for, and expressions of, unity, coming from both the former contenders, there is no longer any signifigant overlap between between the statement "I support Sen. Obama as the Party's chosen nominee for President!" and the statement "I hate Hillary! She is a treacherous back-stabber out to ruin us! She ought to be tossed out of the Party and treated like a pariah dog!" Indeed, pressing the latter line does damage to Sen. Obama's prospects in the general election, and so, as any Leninist would observe, pressing that line objectively amounts to opposing Sen. Obama's election as President. It is not a line a person of any political understanding who supports Sen. Obama and wants to see him President of the United States would press. It is certainly not the line taken by Sen. Obama and his campaign. It is a line that keeps open wounds that need to heal; it is a line that operates against unity in the Party; it is a line that divides rather than unites, and glories in the division it causes.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 08:13 AM
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51. Exactly n/t
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:22 PM
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9. She'll get outvoted.
Worst case scenario, this gets some airplay on FAUX Noise, then Clinton gets outvoted and Obama takes the nomination.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:37 PM
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10. Another distraction.
Like we really need one?
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 07:47 PM
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11. NO! Hillary should stop trying to upstage our presidential candidate. Hasn't she done enough damage?
Edited on Thu Aug-14-08 07:47 PM by invictus
n/t
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 06:20 AM
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45. Why stop now? She's determined to "make a statement"
Too bad Obama has never been able to enjoy his victory and show it :(
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:03 PM
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13. I voted YES, because I defer to our nominee, and he's made the deal.
As far as I'm concerned, that issue is resolved. The TRIBE has spoken.

No, not Larry Tribe, the Democratic Party.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:14 PM
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14. So far, the results of this poll are really disturbing. THIS is the enemy, folks:
And if WE don't stop him, he's gonna blow that thing all over the world...

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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:26 PM
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16. Stan Laurel is our enemy?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 09:31 PM
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26. ...
:spray:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 12:36 AM
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32. he may be more dangerous than Bush
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:52 AM
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41. Remember how I answered you yesterday?
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 05:53 AM by LostinVA
"Some in this thread" need to change their attitudes. Same in this thread. Some posters just want to fight, and have NO desire for peace and unity. They refuse to lay down their arms even after the war is over. It makes me wonder WHY they don't want to stop fighting... hmmmmm?????
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:29 PM
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17. I don't care either way - sure, whatever *shrug*
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:38 PM
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20. This is the part about her name being put into nomination that really scares me:

A total of 20 minutes is provided per candidate for the "presentation of his or her name" and for nominating and seconding speeches.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/14/clinton/index.html (scroll to bottom of article)

Does anyone know if there will really be 20 minutes of speeches about why HILLARY should be the nominee??

PLEASE tell me they will skip that part. NOTHING good can come of it.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 08:58 PM
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21. No.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 09:17 PM
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22. Yes
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 09:18 PM
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23. Hell Naw
enough said!!!!
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:12 AM
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36. I think you meant...
Hell TO THE naw. In the immortal words of the divine Ms. Whitney Houston....

:)
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 09:25 PM
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24. i voted yes
i have been saying it now for weeks and still stand behind it
the fact that obama agrees tells me i made the right choice
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NancyG Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 09:29 PM
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25. Hill's going to place her vote for Obama and I think that's a nice touch.
Either way, don't care. Just win in November.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 09:40 PM
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27. Yes. Yes. Yes.
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 09:42 PM
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28. NO
Some of the things she said during the primaries will be used in McCain ads.
"Shame on you, Barack Obama."
"John McCain and I have experience to be commander in chief; Barack gave a speech."
:thumbsdown:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 09:58 PM
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29. Yes. She is the only other candidate to recieve a significant number of delegates, and
the voices of the people who elected those delegates should be heard. As Senator Obama clearly has a majority of the delegates, I don't see why anyone has a serious problem with this.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 10:10 PM
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30. Yes. Let her lose in a way that can't be denied.
If her name isn't in the hat, idiots will always whine about it.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 10:13 PM
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31. It's her last power play.
Barack wouldn't give it to her if he thought he didn't have it covered and then some.

She's starting her 2012 campaign and he's starting the 2008 general election.

Barack is showing he is a true leader in the very best sense of the word.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 01:39 AM
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34. Sure, why not?
Obama is for it and it's a basically meaningless procedure.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:38 AM
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39. Hillary herself will cast her SD vote for Obama. Why are people bothered by this?
:shrug:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:53 AM
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42. Yes. Absolutely. Senator Obama agrees with this.
Why can't some of his supporters agree with it?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:56 AM
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43. Beacsue ALL they want to do is fight
I've watched this for months: some don't want unity or peace -- they just want to argue and fight and be mean. I've known people like this IRL, too. Even now, after the joint statement and HRC's pledge to case her vote for Obama, she is still slammed and targeted and insulted, and those of us who supported her in the Primaries are, too.

Their game is played out, and their refusal to get on board with SENATOR OBAMA makes them look foolish as the dog days draw to an end.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:57 AM
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44. Yes of course. n/t
So much Hillary hate. It's despicable.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 06:23 AM
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46. It's called Democracy the last time I checked- of course her name should be floated
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 07:34 AM
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47. I'm totally ambivalent about it....sure why not...
and these Hillary or nobody people have gotten on my last nerve so I hope I don't run in to any here.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 07:54 AM
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48. Have yerself a catharsis. n/t
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 07:57 AM
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49. Idon't care if it goes in or not. nt
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 01:28 PM
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58. Yes, absolutely....
It's what Obama wants and it's the right thing to do.
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