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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 08:41 AM
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McCain mistress disappears (with photo)
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 09:09 AM by Changenow


Let's just hope Vicki Iseman is ok.



A female lobbyist had been turning up with him at fund-raisers, visiting his offices and accompanying him on a client’s corporate jet. Convinced the relationship had become romantic, some of his top advisers intervened to protect the candidate from himself — instructing staff members to block the woman’s access, privately warning her away and repeatedly confronting him, several people involved in the campaign said on the condition of anonymity.

When news organizations reported that Mr. McCain had written letters to government regulators on behalf of the lobbyist’s client, the former campaign associates said, some aides feared for a time that attention would fall on her involvement.

Mr. McCain, 71, and the lobbyist, Vicki Iseman, 40, both say they never had a romantic relationship. But to his advisers, even the appearance of a close bond with a lobbyist whose clients often had business before the Senate committee Mr. McCain led threatened the story of redemption and rectitude that defined his political identity.


NYT, February 21, 2008
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 08:45 AM
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1. Has Bomb Bomb been getting boom boom?
and how did Cindy hurt her hand?
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 08:53 AM
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2. A Botox injection went awry and stabbed her in the thumb?

;)
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 08:53 AM
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3. What would Rush say?
Cindy is stupid, unlike Elizabeth, so that couldn't be the reason McCain cheats on her. Could it be that Cindy isn't a good wife by Rush's other measure?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:56 AM
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11. The timing of Cindy's injury is very suspicious to me
It seemed to happen after on fox "news" Alan Colmes revealed John McCain's screwing around on his disabled wife with Cindy, whom he left his disabled wife for. This is the type of thing that would trigger an abuser to hurt the person whom he blames for his misfortune (being publically humiliated and at risk for losing the power that he is seeking).

I would love for an investigative journalist to dig around and talk to people who were at that rope line where Cindy was supposed to have been injured. The injury seems too severe for an "over enthusiastic supporter" to have caused.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:04 AM
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17. Or the stress is getting to Cindy
and she wanted something to take the edge off. She claimed the Keating scandal was much more bearable because she was stoned on drugs stole from poor people.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:12 AM
Response to Reply #11
21. Oh, I don't know. Such a hand injury is very common among
campaigners.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #21
34. It also happens when your hand
smacks your adulterous husband upside the head... really hard.
Don't mess with Cindy, she may not be smart but she's vicious. : - )))
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:58 AM
Response to Reply #21
39. That is true
So is the sling just a way to avoid hand-shakes? I don't know. I saw the look on her face after she left the hospital. It resonated with me.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #11
50. I'm sure the "enthusiastic supporter" will provide a clean cover too..
over whatever the true story is. I suspect she needed more drugs, and it's not prudent to steal them at this juncture.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 04:36 PM
Response to Reply #50
57. She should find out who takes care
of Bush and hire them. This hand thing will only work once.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #57
58. It can give her pain for a few months..
at least long enough to get her through the election.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 04:39 PM
Response to Reply #58
59. An ordinary mortal would be told to
take ibuprofen. She's special, like Rush.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 08:54 AM
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4. Kind of creepy how much she looks like Cindy
Another grand hypocrisy that Big Media will hide for McSame
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kaygore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:41 AM
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32. I thought the same thing--the same wolf eyes and hair coloring
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:46 AM
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35. Same plastic surgeon? nt
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:47 AM
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36. She really does, eh?
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:40 AM
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47. Cindy, 11 years younger--creepy
Or maybe just coincidence? How ironic would THAT be--Cindy McCain getting a dose of her own medicine?
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #47
56. I'm sure Miss Iseman was carefully selected for her position...n/t
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 08:56 AM
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5. She was only news for 3 days ~ where is the Enquirer on this story?


News blackout here ~
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:02 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. Where indeed.
Shouldn't there be a stake out? Shouldn't her friends and family be interviewed?

Why is this story a secret while Edwards, who is not the nominee, is still grabbing headlines? Isn't McCain running as a pro-family, all-American hero?
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 07:25 PM
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72. She is MissIN in Action nt
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:09 AM
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7. that picture of her never fails to crack me up- her expression is priceless!
My favorite part of that article was always the part about how his advisors felt the need to save McCain "from himself".


:rofl:
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:10 AM
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8. Can they save us from him?
Why isn't there interest in this story?

The Cindy as home wrecker story is dated, but this is fresh.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:16 AM
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24. Just like the way Clinton's aides ran interference for him, trying
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 10:16 AM by tblue37
to keep Monica away, because they knew she was trying to hook up with him. Horndog guys are so obvious, regardless of which end of the political spectrum they operate on.

But I do think someone on our side needs to be tracking this lady down and talking to her friends and accquaintances. And the tabloids need to be waving around some serious cash to get these people to talk, the way they undoubtedly did for the Edwards situation.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:46 AM
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9. Translation: Blow jobs do not count as a "romatic relationship"
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #9
54. Romance had nothing to do with it, it was all about the sex...n/t
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 05:07 PM
Response to Reply #54
60. True. That's why his denial of a "romantic relationship" is meaningless.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 06:23 PM
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61. Parsing is only unacceptable from Democrats. nt
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Franc_Lee Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 12:49 AM
Response to Reply #9
85. How's the saying go? "she did other things with her mouth then talk...?
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:50 AM
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10. What do you mean by "disappears?"
Can you provide a link to that story, along with the links to the original NYT story?
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:57 AM
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12. The NYT is linked
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 10:01 AM by Changenow
above, here's a link to her disappearance.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:01 AM
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13. I don't get it. I thought by saying she disappeared, you were saying there were new developments...
but both of the links discuss the Feb. 21 NYT piece.

I don't think it's too shocking that we wouldn't have heard of Iseman since then. Whether the rumors are true or not, the woman's a supporter of McCain. As such, she'd hide away and avoid the press whether or not the rumors were true.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:02 AM
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14. LOL nt
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:03 AM
Response to Reply #14
15. Er ... ok.
:shrug:
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:19 AM
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26. Yes, but she has also "disappeared" from the MSM conversation.
When a Democrat slips up, even one who is no longer running for public office, then the MSM splash it around 24/7. When a Republican does, especially when St. McCain does, the MSM try to remove the story from the center of attention--and if possible, from the national awareness altogether--as quickly as possible.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:24 AM
Response to Reply #26
28. Well, if you're drawing a comparison between this and Rielle Hunter...
it's a little different. McCain hasn't admitted wrongdoing, and even when the story came out, it was ripped up for there not being a lot of "there" there.

I agree on some level, though. I think it's ridiculous that Eliot Spitzer self-immolated while David Vitter's still in the Senate, for example.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:48 AM
Response to Reply #28
37. Hunter was covered before the admission
Where are the forced denials from McCain and his lover?

What does Iseman's mother think of the rumors? How about her sister? What do her neighbors know?
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:08 AM
Response to Reply #37
42. There were several forced denials...
as I mentioned in my post downthread, and the interviews with Hunter's family came about only after the affair was admitted. Again, I think the comparison here is tenuous at best.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:12 AM
Response to Reply #42
44. Then compare it to Monica or Gennifer
and visualize the reaction if either of those women were also lobbyists.

It's fair game, no doubt about it.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 07:16 PM
Response to Reply #44
68. There was a difference ther - both Gennefer and Monica
said there were affairs, Vicki denies it. It is far more like the Edwards story was in 2007 - when the main street media ignored it accepot eitehr Slate or Salon (I always get them mixed up,) The NYT covered Vickie - so it's hard to make your case.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 07:23 PM
Response to Reply #68
70. It's so confusing
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 07:27 PM by Changenow
The failure of the media to report the Hunter story early is evidence that the media is biased toward liberals. But the dead silence about McCain's affair when his own staff leaked it is proper discretion. The differing standards for Democratic and Republican coverage are very complicated. It is hard for someone without the book to follow it all.

Can you explain why it was bad for the media to ignore Edwards indiscretion early, but perfectly proper for them to ignore this?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #70
73. I think it was good they ignored it until there was proof
I also wish the NYT would have concentrated on what they could proof on McCain - quid por quo with lobbyists. As it was he countered the sffair guestion and the real issue drifted away.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #73
75. There is much chest-thumping
about the failure to thoroughly investigate the claims.

If there were a free press, what is good for the goose should be good for the gander.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 08:47 PM
Response to Reply #75
77. True, but given the nature of all the people that could be hurt,
they need to wait until there is proof.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 08:52 PM
Response to Reply #77
78. Reports from paid staff
are sufficient to go forward.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:32 AM
Response to Reply #28
87. There was quite a bit of there there.
Just enough unchecked sources to allow McCain to say "unchecked in part, false in total". But traveling on his corporate jet, appearing at fundraisers, going from city to city with him? That's what mistresses do. That's not what lobbyists do. This is just one of those affairs where there's no stained blue dress and no baby available to prove it.

And then he really did do favors for her client, even if it was more along the lines of blocking regulations than actively passing laws. Clear paper trail there - that should have been a big deal on its own, but the media dropped the whole story like a hot potato.



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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:25 AM
Response to Reply #26
29. She also disappeared from sight
but the poster is simply trying to create a distraction from the fact that McCain's closest advisers told a major newspaper that they believed McCain was having an affair and once the affair was revealed McCain's lover was no where to be found.

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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:06 AM
Response to Reply #29
41. I'm trying to do what now?
I think we can discuss this alleged affair without either of us accusing the other of being in the tank for McCain, no?

The original story used only unnamed sources, and the affair portion of the story wasn't as fleshed out as the donations part (which should have led the piece, were it not for the media's obsession with scandal.) That's bullshit when it's done against Democrats, and it's bullshit when used against the other side too.

In fact, McCain was repeatedly asked about the affair, and repeatedly denied it:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/glenn-hurowitz/stakes-soar-after-mccain-_b_87853.html


The other stuff -- interviewing the mother, neighbors, what have you -- only came to pass in the Hunter/Edwards saga after the affair was out in the open, so it's a bit disingenuous to compare the two.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #12
62. uhh, her bio is up on her firm's website now
http://www.alcalde-fay.com/

This is pretty lame shit.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 06:37 PM
Response to Reply #62
63. Your link doesn't go to her bio
but even if it's in there, McCain should explain why his staff leaks he is having sex with a lobbyist.

Character matters.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #63
84. right, because if I linked directly to it, it wouldn't establish that its currently listed
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 11:14 PM by onenote
that's why I linked the home page. It has a "meet the firm" section. I figured folks would figure out how to go to that part of the site and then find her.

I guess I gave folks too much credit.
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #62
65. No it doesn't
Weird that you claim it does.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #65
83. weirder still that you couldn't or didn't try to find it, since its there
My link is to the home page for the firm. Click on meet the firm. She's listed about half way down.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #62
79.  I've looked all over the site you linked,
nada.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #79
82. you're not looking very hard, then
http://www.alcalde-fay.com/

click on "meet the firm"

go down the list of names, just past half way. There she is.

http://www.alcalde-fay.com/meet_the_firm/BiosDetail.cfm?id=84


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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 07:33 AM
Response to Reply #79
86. Hey, if you are trying to make a point
providing a link goes a long way, which you still haven't done.

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:04 AM
Response to Original message
16. Where is Larry Flynt?
:evilgrin:
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #16
18. There has to be enough money out there
to get someone to talk.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:08 AM
Response to Reply #18
19. Where is Edward's sugar daddy? He seems to have bucks.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:10 AM
Response to Reply #19
20. Who is Vicki's sugar-daddy? nt
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:13 AM
Response to Reply #20
22. Cindy?
Yikes.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:19 AM
Response to Reply #22
25. Good guess. nt
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 04:28 PM
Response to Reply #22
51. Some deep-pocketed K Street types who support McCain...
I suspect Miss Vicki got a BIG bonus recently.
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Top Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #20
64. McSame
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monomach Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:14 AM
Response to Original message
23. Six months ago called.
It wants its news back.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:21 AM
Response to Reply #23
27. It died six months ago
but in light of the scrutiny Edwards affair has attracted, this situation is certainly worth a second look. It was never resolved, and McCain could be President. If he is cheating on his lovely wife, the public should know about it. He could be blackmailed after all.
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monomach Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:28 AM
Response to Reply #27
30. If you beg for a rehash of this, then you beg for the MSM to rehash every Obama smear, too.
Do you really want to go back to how it was? 1 hour of Iseman and 23 hours of Rev. Wright each day?
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #30
31. Obama's staff told reporters he cheats on Michelle?
Damn, there really is a liberal media after all.

McCain's people must be very worried that this will become known. It was lost in the primary, but now that a new standard for reporting of affairs has been established, this scandal should be vetted. Edwards lost the nomination, there is no chance he'll be President. McCain won, this should be explored. We wouldn't want a Clinton style burden on President McCain now would we?
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:57 AM
Response to Reply #30
38. As opposed just to straight 24/7 that M$M does with Obama smears
Yea, lots of choices out there :shrug:


I don't spend much if any time watching or listening to it, but know enough and read enough on this board to know that's all that takes place
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:59 AM
Response to Reply #38
40. This story didn't even get a single news cycle
There is more too it as a matter of fact, maybe the rest of the story deserves another thread?
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:27 AM
Response to Reply #40
45. There seem to be way too many eating up the mantra of goody-two-shoes......
on the Democratic side. This even to the detriment of the constituents and their support. They doing it out of fear that they could be smeared by M$M. Then the other extreme of the republicans who seem to have no principles at all. Twenty some years ago i once might have been able to reason with a policy or two on the republican agenda. Yet nowadays, their sheer hypocrisy seems to have tainted every thing they seem to be about.

After watching the

"The Revolution will not be Televised"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3119073

my suspicions were legitimized. It became quite obvious M$M is actually vermin with no redeeming qualities and have nothing but their crooked agenda to sell :shrug:
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #45
49. Yep. n/t
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 04:32 PM
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53. McAnus just legitimized the Corsi book..
by saying that we need to "keep a sense of humor". In other words he thinks these vile smears and lies against Obama are funny as hell. There is no high road this time out unfortunately.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 04:29 PM
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52. That's going to happen no matter what the Dems do..
may as well dish it out too.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 04:33 PM
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55. Sadly, it is a one way street
The ghost of Rev. Jeremiah Wright will be revived around Halloween, but McCain's missing lover will remain a State secret.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:11 AM
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43. John Sidney McCain III's most recent mistress, you mean.
And to be fair, she may have gotten those big favors for her client without bedding the wrinkly old white haired dude.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 01:14 PM
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48. Think of how Kerry's name was ridiculed
McCain may have taken money instead of sex for the favors, but we'll never know.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 07:09 PM
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66. Why are you mentioning Kerry here?
He was (and is) very clean with regards to lobbyists. Consider he was one of the poorest Senators when he alone continued to investigate BCCI - an investigation that Democratic money men (and Republicans ) wanted stopped. Kerry backing down could have let them get more entrenched and dangerous. As the sole person threatening them, I assume they would have found a way to pay him big time to stop had he been corruptible.

Kerry also had nothing to do with any of this.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 07:12 PM
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67. McCain's name sounds far more pretentious
than Kerry's. But the right and the media portray McCain as Everyman.
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 11:29 AM
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46. Evil Mistress Barbie....
In REALLY LOUD PINK! :puke:
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kittykitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 07:23 PM
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69. The left side of her face is far more attractive than the right (her L & R)
Cover one side, then the other. Interesting.
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 07:25 PM
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71. The left is
always better than the right.
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kittykitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 08:23 PM
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74. Why is that?
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 08:44 PM
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76. The right believes the apocalypse
is upon us. The left wants to preserve what the right hasn't already destroyed. Left=preserve life=good. Right=Hellfire=Bad

***The left and the Democratic Party are not necessarily synonymous.***
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:00 PM
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80. Somebody is going to have to explain to me why any woman would want to have an affair with McCain.
As Stephanie Miller would say "I just threw up in my mouth a little".
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Changenow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:02 PM
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81. It's a job,
someone has got to do it.
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