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agentS Donating Member (922 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:34 AM
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McManiac dooms his chances with ABORTION comment- Politico reports
Today on Politico.com, we find out that McCain wants to pick a VP who leans pro-abortion. Ut oh! The Social Conservatives (whom we sometimes call the Christian Taliban) won't be too happy with him!
Lookie here...
Top social conservative leaders in key battleground states are urging John McCain not to pick a running mate who supports abortion rights, warning of dire consequences from a Republican base already unenthused about their nominee.

McCain’s comments Wednesday to the Weekly Standard’s Stephen Hayes that former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge’s pro-abortion rights views wouldn’t necessarily rule him out quickly found their way into the in-boxes of Christian conservatives. For those who have been anxiously awaiting McCain’s pick as a signal of his ideological intentions, there was deep concern that their worst fears about the Arizona senator may be realized.

“It absolutely floored me,” said Phil Burress, head of the Ohio-based Citizens for Community Values. “It would doom him in Ohio.”(LOL)

Burress emailed about a dozen “pro-family leaders” he knows outside Ohio and forwarded it to three McCain aides tasked with Christian conservative outreach.

“That choice will end his bid for the presidency and spell defeat for other Republican candidates,” Burress wrote in the message.(ROFL)

He and other Ohio conservatives met privately with McCain in June, and while the nominee didn’t promise them an anti-abortion rights running mate, his staff said they could “almost guarantee” that would be the case, Burress recalled.

Now, Burress said, “he’s not even sure would vote for him let alone work for him if he picked a pro-abortion running mate.” (LMAO)

James Muffett, head of Michigan’s Citizens for Traditional Values, met with McCain along with a handful of other Michigan-based social conservatives Wednesday night.

“A good portion of us were urging him to pick a pro-life running mate,” Muffett said, noting that they were doing so before even getting wind of the Standard story. “That choice would go a long way to solidify his credentials.”

Muffett said McCain didn’t offer any promises on the issue, but rather reiterated his anti-abortion record and assured them that he was aware of how critical the base was to the electoral success of Republican presidents dating back to Ronald Reagan.

To select a running mate who supports abortion rights would be “wrong-headed, short-sighted, fracture the Republican Party and not allow us to capitalize on the Democratic Party’s fracture right now,” Muffett argued.(ROFLMAO)

“If he does that, it makes our job 100 times harder. It would dampen enthusiasm at a time when evangelicals are looking for ways to gin up enthusiasm.”

McCain, Muffett said, got that message in their meeting.

“Some people in the movement say it would be the kiss of death. He heard that in the room last night.”(lolz)

With polls showing McCain and Obama still neck-and-neck in many competitive states, conservatives argue that their candidate must turn out Christian conservatives in large numbers to win.

In Iowa, for example, many in the GOP say Bush won in 2004 after losing there in 2000 because he bolstered turnout among the religious right in the conservative western part of the state and in exurban areas.

“Bush only won by 10,000 votes,” recalled Steve Scheffler, president of the Iowa Christian Alliance and a Republican committeeman from the state. “You’re going to have to have a huge turnout of that base again for McCain to win.”

Snide comments are mine.
That's page 1. Page 2 is right <http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12542_Page2.html|here>

In the interview, McCain said “the pro-life position is one of the important aspects or fundamentals of the Republican Party.”

“And I also feel that — and I'm not trying to equivocate here — that Americans want us to work together. You know, Tom Ridge is one of the great leaders and he happens to be pro-choice. And I don't think that that would necessarily rule Tom Ridge out .”

He added: “I think it's a fundamental tenet of our party to be pro-life, but that does not mean we exclude people from our party that are pro-choice. We just have a — albeit strong — but just it's a disagreement. And I think Ridge is a great example of that.”


Way to go, Maverick. Or should I say "Loose Cannon"? No wonder Obama's bodysurfing in Hawaii- his aides knew McMoron would sink his own campaign singlehandedly. :P
McCain needs every vote he can get. He knows that Bush won with huge Evangelical support. So what does he do? Suggest picking a guy who isn't in lockstep with their agenda . That's what I call 'rallying the troops'. :toast:

The article says he wants to attract the Clinton supporters with a VP pick that will be close to what they want in regards to abortion.
:eyes:
Yeah whatever. Say what you want about female supporters who won't support Obama, but they're not stupid. :dunce:
Does the McCain camp really think...at all? Hell, their guys calls Mexicans 'wetbacks', tried to make his wife take part in a strip show, called his wife a c*nt in public, voted against every single women's issue since the Stone Age or whenever he took office, cheated on his 1st wife, and can't even defend birth control! That's showing 'em, John! Way to pander, despite your craptacular record on their issues.

So, what do you think DU'ers? Is this the most recent nail in the coffin or some cynical last-ditch attempt to attract swing voters with LIEbermann or Ridge?
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:35 AM
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1. Let's call him McProChoice so his base can have a constant reminder
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agentS Donating Member (922 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:40 AM
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5. Catchy...
Little long though. How about "McCoathanger"?
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:59 AM
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9. That would only work if he was pro-life
If you want to turn evangelicals and other social conservatives against him, coin the nickname McBabykiller in e-mails to your fundie relatives and friends (we've all got them) and hope it catches on virally. I know some will say that this would compromise their pro-choice principles, but if it hurts McCain electorally, it's for the greater good. :evilgrin:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:38 AM
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He's a maverick. Mavericks don't play well with others
He'll find out what "alone" means very soon, at this rate.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:38 AM
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2. Vice Presidents Don't Pick Supreme Court Nominees
and if The Politico were a print outlet, it wouldn't even be useful to line my kitty litter box with.
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:39 AM
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3. True but it shows that McProChoice isn't so set on his anti-choice position.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:04 AM
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12. And that, of course,
sits well with the middle of the road majority electorate that he needs to win and who are not rabid anti reproductive rights.

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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:48 AM
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8. exactly - truer words were never spoken.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:16 AM
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14. sometimes they do
particularly when the Pres is advanced in years, has signs of a potentially terminal disease, and has anger management, hypertension issues.

that said, I agree with Politico as a news source, just wanted to chime in on why McSame is a horrid choice, reason number 432.

:hi:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:25 AM
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16. They do if the president dies, steps down, etc., which could be a very real
possibility given McKooks age, mental state, etc.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:40 AM
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4. Prior to this, I wasn't sure he wants to lose...
I guess I'm still not sure of it, but should this come to pass? Yeah, I'd be more likely to believe it.
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agentS Donating Member (922 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:42 AM
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6. He doesn't just want to lose....
the article says he wants to sink the WHOLE GOP fleet with him!

What's the old Navy saying? "Sink the ship to save the fleet", right?
McCain's got it in reverse. "Sink the fleet to save my ship!"
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 06:35 PM
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18. One can only hope... :) N/T
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 09:45 AM
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7. McCain should be happy Torquemada is
dead. He would really give him a run for his money!
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:02 AM
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10. He isn't dead, he's just floating around above Termight
And anyone who gets that joke is automatically my friend.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:02 AM
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11. Eh, those idiots can be conned back into voting for him no matter what. (nt)
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:08 AM
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13. That's quite a flip-flop.
Didn't he say a couple of months ago that a pro-choice VP was off the table?

So, which is it, maverick?
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:24 AM
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15. If McCain is willing to give up the abortion issue
That IS a good thing.

Waht you want on these issues is institutional change. Abortion rights are civil rights!!!

A women's biology needs to be respected.
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agentS Donating Member (922 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 10:52 AM
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17. Try telling that to McCain voters
Anti-choice is their single reason that voting block votes. take that away and what reason do they have to vote?
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