OMG... Pro-Obama group sticks it to McCain's infidelity to wife #1 & kids w/new ad!

It's called "Families": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eUkc9GCMEQ

Sure, it has major religious overtones, but I think the fidelity message transcends the more obvious one. WHat do you think?

Love it! :rofl:

Our candidate is actually the Family Values candidate of this election.

not just the "candidate" ...

It's an independent advocacy group

Well, I still likee.

:)

I was in a big rush to post!

made me laugh too.

He's got some cover and can claim that he wasn't sticking it to McCain for dumping his first wife, but who isn't going to think about that, after seeing this?

More like this, please.

Even if one is not familiar with McCain's betrayal of his first family, the ad raises the comparison to McCain...

the fidelity note is really lost on them. That or they will think he's showing how he's no John Edwards or Bill Clinton. (Sorry, but you know how some people love the Clenis.)

I wish the Dems would really stick it to these crapheads. Dems are too gentle. They will not win unless they take up for themselves. and now.

it's not the kind of dumbed-down, blatant McCain-style attack... it is defining who Obama is in a positive way, using his fidelity to his wife and children to define who he is as a man and a leader... AND, by omission, invites comparison to McCain's marital history, and consequently what it says about HIM. The MSM doesn't want to cover this part of his life; if the question is put out there by an ad of this sort they may be forced to address it, one way or another.

If they see it and don't know about McCain's first wife, they might actually try to disbunk it on their own or look for the talking points on it. That's when the truth hits them.

And yeah, it will make some think that he's not like some of the others, but isn't that a good thing?

So - kind of out-dated and inappropriate then perhaps.(Given the subject matter I mean.)

Good to know our social attitudes have moved along a bit.
One day we'll even be able to imagine an African American woman with a good chance of becoming president. And maybe she will also be gay and an atheist.

currently holds an office, which is McCain's current situation. I applied it to his marriages not because I am callous but because I felt he was when he left Carol and the children. Sorry if the irony didn't come through.

I also hear you about an African American woman with a good chance for becoming president. Unfortunately, our election system is crap and Cynthia McKinney will not get a fair shot at the Oval Office this time around. :(

:evilgrin:

McCain's marriages: Campaign fodder?

-snip-
The committee maintains it is attempting to portray the positives about a candidate whom it views as not only a staunch family man, but also right on the issues, such as health care.
Yet Kirbyjon Caldwell, a Methodist pastor from Houston who officiated at the wedding of the president's daughter, Jenna Bush, was quick today to point out what he sees as a particularly strong contrast between Obama, married and a father of two, and McCain, who has several children from two marriages and divorced his first wife and married his second nearly 30 years ago.

"These smears on John McCain's character and faith expose the utter hypocrisy of Barack Obama's claim to represent a new kind of politics,'' Brian Rogers, a spokesman for the McCain campaign, said today. "It's disgraceful. The American people know that John McCain's faith and character were tested and forged in ways few can fathom."


Caldwell, senior pastor at Windsor Village United Methodist Church in Houston, said today during a Matthew 25 conference call with reporters that part of the goal in promoting Obama is dispelling some of the myths about him:
"There is a huge information gap that exists today between who Barack Obama is and who the voting public believes him to be.... He is not a Muslim, as you know, with all due respect to Muslims... He is a stout, straight- up Christian and he is very happy and proud about that.''

Pastor Caldwell also said this: "I think it's important for us to celebrate the fact that Sen. Barack Obama is an upstanding, fabulous family man... He is a wonderful husband and a great dad. And at times like these, when the institution of marriage is under attack.... a candidate who has extremely sterling credentials as a family man speaks volumes.''

We asked Caldwell if he was attempting to draw a comparison with McCain on this question of marriages.

"His marital history has been duly recorded,'' Caldwell said of McCain. "I think the data speak for themselves.... At the end of the day, I think the American public deserves a full revelation of the candidates' character and competencies... Whatever questions should be asked that would give the voting public a fair indication of who they are and what they've done, I think is fair game.''

Mara Vanderslice, founder and director of the Matthew 25 Network, said that, while the group's intent with its TV ad is to portray a positive image of Obama: "Many in the Christian community have not forgotten what happened with Sen. McCain marrying his second wife one month after leaving his first wife... It has not been forgotten by many in the Christian community..
"Our intention is to issue a positive ad for Sen. Obama,'' Vanderslice said, "but those facts about Sen. McCain are still in the background.''

McCain married his second wife, then-Cindy Hensley of Phoenix, in May 1980. He filed for divorce of his first wife, Carol Shepp of Philadelphia, in February 1980. McCain, still serving in the Navy then, had met Hensley in the spring of 1979 at a cocktail party in Hawaii, and has maintained that he was separated from his first wife before he started dating his second-to-be. But in the divorce suit that McCain filed on Feb. 19, 1980, he stated that he and his first wife had "cohabited'' until Jan. 7 of that year.

McCain's former wife is supporting his campaign, and Cindy McCain is actively campaigning for him.
The group says it will air its ad supporting Obama during CNN's broadcast of the Saddleback church appearances of the two candidates, who will be interviewed by the Rev. Rick Warren.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/politics/blog/2008/08/mccains_marriages_campaign_fod.html

married her? Hmmm...I'm sure they wouldn't mention it at all...

well, well, well... would America have been informed about that by now? Frankly, Obama's campaign has been a little too decent for my taste!

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

and

:rofl:

and I'll be smiling all day! :)

There's nothing about McCain in this ad. Fidelity is to McCain as race is to Obama; if he wants to win, he should refrain from bringing it up.

I remember the 1980s; the age of the Moral Majority, Ronald Reagan, etc., and the way the Christian Right labeled the Democrats the party of loose morals. I believe that the state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation. I don't care that much if people fool around, but I mind very much if they fool around while telling everyone else not to.

when he met and started an affair with Cindy?

Hasn't that gotten other officers into a world of hurt and court martialed?

not sure tho.

but is using the gospel to work on poverty, peace and other issues besides abortion.


They are growing in power and impact significantly.

This is the far right's greatest nightmare.

which the far right fundies tend to deny.

the "Values Forum," or whatever it's called, which will be roadblocked on cable at 8pm EST.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/15/pastor-from-jenna-bushs-w_n_119187.html


The pastor who officiated Jenna Bush's wedding in May recently criticized John McCain for his comments at a biker rally earlier this month. ABC has the story.

"Well, I don't know a lot about John McCain's family history, I do know, however, that as recently as last week I think it was, the Senator made a comment in South Dakota regarding his wife entering some Buffalo Chips contest which is this topless deal and if she were to enter she would probably win it and my personal opinion and based on my understanding of the Christian faith, that's not not, N-O-T, not the type of expression that a presidential candidate, or anyone for that matter who is a follower of the Christian faith, ought to make," said the Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell. "I don't know if that is a perfect case in point, but it surely does help to juxtapose the DNA of Senator Obama, if you would, versus the DNA of Senator McCain."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/08/15/christian_pac_ad_emphasizes_ob.html


Television viewers tuning in to Saturday's Saddleback Civil Forum might see a new TV ad from the Matthew 25 Network, a pro-Obama Christian political action committee, which is set to air during the forum.

"Families" stars a cross-section of Christian leaders and academics: Brian McLaren, a leader of the Emergent Church movement, Kirbyjon Caldwell, the Houston-based Methodist pastor who officiated Jenna Bush's wedding, his wife Suzette and Lisa Cahill, a Catholic theologian at Boston College.

"As a pastor, I know that you can learn about a man's character based on how he treats his family," McLaren says. "Barack is a strong man of Christian faith who's been married to his wife for 16 years," Caldwell adds.

The Matthew 25 Network hopes to mobilize Catholics, Evangelicals and other Christians "for a new Christian witness in politics," the group says.

"The Republican Party has had it pretty easy the past few years, because they've been able to take a position on a few issues -- abortion, gay marriage, to some degree stem cell research -- and be assured of religious support," McLaren told reporters on a conference call this morning. But the Christian community's priorities have shifted in the past few years, McLaren said, to concerns about poverty and the environment, among others.

The group's name reflects this shift in emphasis: it comes from the Bible's Gospel of Matthew (Matthew 25:40), "I tell you the truth, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me."

"I hope that what we'll see happen is that the faith and dialogue about faith in public life will deepen and mature rather than be focused on just a few wedge issues," McLaren said.

Caldwell emphasized Obama's religious faith, as well as his values. "Since the senator is a Christian, I think it's important for the voting population to understand his virtues and his values," Caldwell told reporters, calling him "an outstanding, fabulous family man. I don't know why that's not touted more."

The group cannot coordinate any of its advertising or mobilization efforts with the Obama campaign, but any promotion of the candidate's Christian faith and perceived Christian actions aired during a televised forum hosted by a prominent Christian leader can't hurt. Obama has been dogged by persistent and false rumors about his religious background.

:rofl:

"Including his own".

BEST line. Ever.


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I was glad to see that it's not a 527 or 501c4, because I don't like soft-money groups running ads which mention candidates.

http://www.matthew25.org/about.htm

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I crack myself up

Nicely done

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I realize that this may be necessary but....it is quite repellent.

No chance we can ever grow up when this kind of stuff is necessary.

Worse than even the GOP used to dredge up.

What's wrong with highlighting Obama's commitment to his family?

I don't get it.

:shrug:

and no doubt some of the hype may be real. But even if he hated his family we would be being fed this stuff.

But are we all so infantile that we actually care about that stuff?

I always have found those lovey dovey pics of candidates and spouses revolting. Edwards gazing adoring at his wife. Obama at his. And ALL the rest of them.

Frankly - I don't care.

I am glad we have a "wholesome" candidate - one who can't be attacked by the "family values" crowd of creeps and sickos.

I just wish it were not all necessary.

I want a person of integrity, decency, intellect and ability - Obama is all that. What I don't need is the popular expression of those virtues in HIS personal life. Those values tend to shift with who is defining them. I am not interested - for example - in a GOP definition of "family values".

But we need to win so I am glad Obama appears to be mainstream with the religiosity and all of his "values". We don't need the distractions of actual moral complexities that come with being human in a complex society. Not yet at least. Not until we have all grown up a bit.

Not a single negative thing said.
No grainy footage and evil voiceover.
No mention of his opponent.

I've never seen a negative ad be so positive!

Sure, it's a little shallow, but it can't help but neutralize complaints from the "family values" crowd.

but it's not the quality of the crap (whose crap is smellier?) but the nature of the beast itself.(just to mix the metaphor.)

To repeat what I said in an earlier post:

I am glad we have a "wholesome" candidate - one who can't be attacked by the "family values" crowd of creeps and sickos.

I just wish it were not all necessary.

I want a person of integrity, decency, intellect and ability - Obama is all that. What I don't need is the popular expression of those virtues in HIS personal life. Those values tend to shift with who is defining them. I am not interested - for example - in a GOP definition of "family values".

But we need to win so I am glad Obama appears to be mainstream with the religiosity and all of his "values". We don't need the distractions of actual moral complexities that come with being human in a complex society. Not yet at least. Not until we have all grown up a bit.

brilliant

:rofl:

My favorite part: Hmph!

It put me OFF, but I'm
an atheist who knows that
non-religious people divorce
at LOWER rates than church-goers.