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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:09 PM
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How Does This Russia/Georgia Conflict Help McCain?
First, most Americans don't really care as this war does not involve them. Most Americans only care about foreign policy when it directly affects them. That's why the Bush admin had to lie over and over about Saddam's role in 9/11. No one is going to care about this conflict on election day.

Second, what would John McCain do any differently from either Bush or Obama? Send in troops? Ha! With what money or what army?

If anything, Americans are war fatigued. They're still more concerned about the economy than anything else.

Sure, the media is all a twitter, but not the people.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:15 PM
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1. It doesn't help McCain except for on a "reflex" reaction......
as soon as folks have thought about it for a minute, they will realize that they are war weary.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:20 PM
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2. Shows how stupid the R's are if they *think* it will help him
(and they appear to think just that).
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:24 PM
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3. The Republicans are a "one trick pony". True, their trick has worked
for quite awhile. But, I believe America is over them.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:29 PM
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4. Yes, Obama needs to step aside concede the war to bush's decision and talk the economy.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:30 PM
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5. Georgia's spending, or was spending, hundreds of thousands on McCain.
Probably wish they'd spent their money more wisely now.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:32 PM
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6. Because *everything* that happens is good for McAlzheimers.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:34 PM
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7. Gives corporate media some false pretenses to toss around.
Even though the policies he is espousing are very foolish, the battles in Georgia give the corporate media reporters some reasons to pretend that Dubya's Hug-Buddy John Sidney McCain III is stronger in national security.

They can only pretend because he actually made things more INSECURE by allowing the client of one of his campaign staffers to push him to support Georgia's repression of its separatists in South Ossetia and oppose Russia's stepping in to stop it. That move of Georgia's gave Russia the excuse to destroy some of the military armaments the US had sent them, so we have also lost money on the deal.

The idiot McBombBomb made us less secure. But these days, just by doing photo ops and saying something, anything-- JSM III can be said to be "stronger on national security."

Let's hope they prove me wrong and finally get fed up with defending another idiot. We have had seven humiliating years being the world's deranged laughingstock. Please let us stop this foolishness.


AND I HOPE YOU'RE RIGHT and the US public realize that all the war mongering has bankrupted us and we cannot afford any more of it.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:36 PM
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8. Plus it has the potential to make McCain look worse
Edited on Fri Aug-15-08 02:38 PM by butlerd
He has been shooting his mouth about it non-stop for the past few days even though he is NOT President, members of his campaign apparently have some ties to Georgia that might not look good, and, most importantly, he is clearly DOING exactly what he was laughably accusing Obama of doing earlier, namely pretending that he is already President. Of course, I don't know to what extent most people are paying attention to this conflict and/or McCain's "role" in it so it may not really matter much what he does or doesn't do in regards to this "crisis" but, at the very least, he's given Obama some great fodder for the debates such as McCain blatantly ignoring every other post-"Cold War" international crisis INCLUDING Afghanistan and Iraq and literally acting as though he is already President through his words and actions over the past few days which should make any further such attacks upon on Obama meaningless. Amazingly, the GOP is actually ripping on Obama for NOT responding to this "crisis" even though he has zero ability to actually do anything and we still have a (P)resident who is supposed to handle such things (I think).
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cyndensco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-15-08 02:37 PM
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9. I would hope mccain's recent actions would be a deal breaker.
Foreign policy is supposed to be his strong point. His first reaction was to put the blame directly on Russia, not waiting to find out what had happened. He then parroted the bush/rice talking point that made him appear as clueless as they are: "no country should invade another in the 21st Century." His advisor, scheunemann, was discovered to have been a lobbyist for Georgia until March 2007. No telling what else will come out in the next few days..

How does the conflict help mccain? I guess some of his a**hole supporters might like that he is tough. Bomb, bomb, bomb, Russia?. I think any thinking person would recognize the man is just not right for the job. Unfortunately, though, we are talking about american voters, not thinkers...
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