So, when is the Forum on Science scheduled?

You know.. to discuss things like Global Climate Change, Energy Policy, Teaching Creationism in public schools, our failing Infrastructure, Stem Cell Research, NASA Funding Etc. Etc. Etc.

Moderated by am accomplished scientist




Isn't that next week??? Or maybe right after the conventions?????

Right before the alarm clock goes off.

Oh, you meant in actual waking life? Fat chance.

Or San Francisco, CA.

his fuckin' head would explode.

surely you jest!!! :rofl:

An open and honest discussion of science policy? In this country? No chance. Science makes Baby Jesus cry.

:shrug:

If he went to a science forum and spouted some fundie beliefs to the "egg heads" he'd become a hero and rally the base.

It would just be an opportunity for straight-talking McSame to "put the intellectuals in their place" with some empty-headed fundie slogans and it would likely backfire big time.

Anti-intellectualism is practically a national obsession in this country. We've had 8 years of Bush - 'nuff said?

Who believe a 2000 year old book over research being done in lab. Some people are acting surprised Obama didn't walk into the faith forum and turn them all into Democrats :rofl:

Who believe a 2000 year old book over research being done in lab. Some people are acting surprised Obama didn't walk into the faith forum and turn them all into Democrats :rofl:

Since the beginning of the debates in 2007. The questions shouldn't be left to just theologians.

Bill Nye the science guy would be good and respected by all.
This would up grade the dialogue for our national needs.

of a generalist on science that can take all fields
into the perspective that Bill can.

Bill reaches everyone and all aspects of science and technology.
He has talked to the greatest living scientist of the world in all
fields.

He is respected and a great role model that all families have
grown up with.

Besides the fundies hate him.

If only wishing would make it so.

My bad! That wasn't very scientific! :blush:

But it should!

...and at the rate the planet is warming, not soon.

Bring it on.


MDN

or about 200 years.

Much better to charge people $2,000 each so a rich neocon Christ-less Christian Preacher can make money off of interviewing two presidential candidates.

Better to stack the deck and the crowd with crazy Pro-McInsane people and watch Obama squirm (though he didn't squirm, but people see what they want to see).

You know the Corporate media would never show the footage of any real science debate. It would be as if it never happened.

I am a scientist and I cannot think of a better was to summarize what made me uncomfortable with this forum.

Sad as it is, the science and reason lobby just doesn't have as much sway as the batshit religion lobby.

Besides, as a couple people upthread pointed out, the US is so anti-intellectual, McCain would probably be able to rally his base off it.

NT!

There are some faiths where the teachings are vastly more important than the historical accuracy of the account. For example, my own faith is Luciferian Satanism. The attributes most praised in our influential works (we don't have holy books in the normal sense) are compassion, justice and intellectual inquiry ("follow the truth always, no matter where it takes ye", TDA). Did Lord Lucifer exist? I believe so but ultimatly, it's irrelevant because even if he did not, the moral and ethical teachings would remain worthwhile. We don't dispute that Darwinian Evolution is more-or-less accurate (a couple of us in the field have quibbles with the specific details but that's quite normal for scientists). We don't fight science, we learn from it. I've used my own faith as an example here but there are others that this is true of such as some forms of Buddhism and even a couple of minor variants of Christianity.

But then there is the form of religion which is largely about a spiritual "get out of jail free" card which it's adherants tend to interpret as the freedom to behave badly in the here and now.

I'm going to sound elitist by saying this but any serious scientific discussion on those topics will be far above the heads of most Americans.

There has been a concerted effort by Repblicans to dumb down the American public and they've done a good job. We have regressed as a country.

it means that we are on an economic downturn for sure. How can we compete with the hi tech world while being a theocracy??
Who else feels that this faith forum is a slap in the face for progressives? I feel really left out in the cold.

I'm all for it - I'm just saying that those who don't act shouldn't complain.

would be cool on whatever subejects of interest and concern. Reverend Whoever was better than most in the Corporate Media.

Science would be one I'd love to regularly explore with candidates. That would be an excellent window into the the mind and breadth of their vision.

... :7 I'll be waiting...

Unfortunately, it'll never happen.

Thank you.