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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 08:42 AM
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Did Obama say anything that'll work the Religious Right up into a froth?
If so, what was it?

If not, then was this a good strategy for Obama to keep them at bay for the rest of the campaign? These groups thrive on fear, and Obama went on record with them early on. The faith forum seems like a dumb move on it's surface, but thinking ahead in what usually happens in Dem campaigns: Opposition picks a hot-button issue to motivate the religious right base. Dem candidate tries to avoid the issue, and spends the rest of the campagin ducking, bobbing and weaving.

Obama just nipped that in the bud. I don't see him having to play defense with the religious right anymore.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 08:49 AM
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1. They know the he is a muslim crap is getting weaker everyday. No Muslim
would say some of the things Obama said about Jesus
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 08:57 AM
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6. unless he really is....
THE ANTI-CHRIST!
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 08:50 AM
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2. He said when life began was above his pay grade - he meant he wasn't God
but they are jumping all over it because McCain said life began at conception - one word answer.
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:02 AM
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7. Totally Agree
This will be what the RW latches on to.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 08:51 AM
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3. like McCain going to the NAACP, the victory is in going
I still think Obama did a weak job of responding to the questions. He's got to tighten up his responses. It's show time.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 08:52 AM
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4. I don't know
I watched it twice but the Chicken Littles on here are acting like the world is coming to an end because McCain got applause from the Fundies when he said he was against gay people and abortion. :shrug:
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1Hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 08:53 AM
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5. Yeah. He OWNED McCain's ass on Bible knowledge and application to his philosophy of life
and on the Presidency (Matthew 25:35 re taking care of society)He didn't quote scripture, but this is the scripture that he was referencing - the Bible crowd would have recognized it.

The pre-judging crowd should be frothing at the mouth this a.m.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:02 AM
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8. Yeah, I think that Obama's appearance was aimed at
shutting up the fundy pastors spewing lies about him not being a Christian. And personally, I think his appearance probably gained him some votes--even the most fanatic are realizing a couple of things: 1. The GOP talks a good talk about abortion and gays but hasn't done a thing about either, even when they held the majority in Congress; 2.The country is so screwed up right now that voters need to look at the broad issues and not concentrate on one issue only.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:50 AM
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12. I think his appearance probably helped him a lot with young evangelical voters, a voting bloc he's
already appealing to. They'd have liked his thoughtful answers.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:05 AM
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9. They should be very pleased with his marriage answer.
Jerry Falwell himself could hardly have put us perverts in our place any better.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:07 AM
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10. Yeah, that was disappointing. n/t
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:24 AM
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13. Jerry Falwell supported civil unions and rights for gay couples!
Edited on Sun Aug-17-08 10:25 AM by dmordue
Who would have guessed?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:55 AM
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14. The marriage question was the only one he answered confidently and succintly.
Edited on Sun Aug-17-08 10:59 AM by QC
On everything else he sounded like a grad student grinding his way through orals, but on that one he had a concise, crowd-pleasing answer readily at hand.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 09:45 AM
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11. Not during the forum itself. But I think the GOP might have been even more
intrigued by a certain line of attack because Obama gave such a heated answer to one question he was asked right after the forum.

Jake Tapper commented on it

Obama Accuses Anti-Abortion Opponents of "Lying"

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/08/obama-accuses-a.html

and there's a link to his earlier piece about this, way back in January:

The Abortion Vote the GOP is Planning to Use to Bring Down Obama

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/01/the-abortion-vo.html

I don't know if I've ever seen Obama give such a heated answer.

Heated answers accusing your opponents of lying work when the audience already agrees with you. But questions that lead to heated answers can be exploited by political opponents when the audience includes undecided voters.

Anyway, this is an issue again because of a new NRLC attack on Obama this past week:

http://nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/


I hope the Obama campaign will soon have a VERY detailed, thorough response to this on its website, if it isn't there already, and then Obama can deflect these questions very coolly by simply referring people to that web page.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 12:50 PM
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16. Interesting stuff. Shows why voting "present" is the best choice
for certain legislation that's not as much designed to pass, as it is to use as ammo for opposing candidates later.
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 10:59 AM
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15. Rick Warren A Mega-Pastor . . .
Called Obama his friend and also vouched for the fact that Obama is a Christian. Mission accomplished as far as I am concerned.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 01:07 PM
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17. Well, for starters, he was breathing.
There he sat, gettin' all uppity with the breathing. Blatantly sitting there......in-and-out, in-and-out endlessly! It was totally annoying.

Then he had to nerve to speak! Acting all at ease, as though he isn't the anti-Christ himself! At that point I turned it off, I just couldn't take it.





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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 01:08 PM
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18. And did you see how he blinked his eyes?
As if he's talking to us in subliminimial code.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 01:11 PM
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19. They will use the "above my pay grade" thing against him
fundies like black and white answers. Especially to "life begins at conception" type questions.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 01:20 PM
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20. How could they twist the meaning of it, though?
His answer, when explained, should be - well - not acceptable to the pro-life fundie, but not easy to point to, either.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 01:23 PM
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21. They don't want anything that has to be explained
this is not a thoughtful, analytical crowd.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 01:27 PM
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22. as it is they froth more than beer poured from the roof of a 10 story building
it's what they do. :eyes:
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adoraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 01:29 PM
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23. his "punish her with a baby" comment
I don't think he meant to say it the way he did, but it did sound pretty bad.

Hopefully they don't replay audio files much. It wasn't as big a problem during the primaries since most Democrats are pro-choice.
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