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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 11:22 AM
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My Take on Obama v. McCain in Religion-Land
Edited on Sun Aug-17-08 11:41 AM by liberalmike27
Pundits on MSNBC described McCain as black and white (interestingly) and Obama as seeing shades of Grey in his positions, which is right, and puts Obama in the realm of the real, and McCain in a fantasy land. Things are not black and white. The world and issues have shades of Grey, and anyone who gives you a black and white view on everything is lying to you, and giving you trite phrases and slogans.

Which brings me to my next point; McCain's nose was so far up their butts, I have never seen so much ass-kissing, of those lilly-white Christian butts in my life. I'm sure his nose must've been brown at the end. I don't think for a single 40 minutes in my life, have I ever heard so many pandering slogans from the past eight years. I think he yanked every one of them out to use. And it isn't surprising that this crowd, taught by religion to be duped, was taken in by them.


I must say too, that McCain seemed a lot more familiar with the questions, as if he'd been given a copy.


Of the two of them, though, I still preferred Obama's open-minded, thoughtful answers, not McCain's campaign-slogans. And I might add, McCain seemed to get really angry for a portion of the program. And it was amazing how in every answer he seemed to get back to his Vietnam prison experience. It was almost as if he was saying "I was locked up in a Vietnamese prison, so I deserved to be elected." I can't help but wonder if that was where all that anger came from, and if he wants to send kids in to unjust wars like Vietnam too, just because he had to do it "back in his day."


I'm sure for the crowd that Obama was there to speak to, McCain probably won the night, as expected. But Kudos to Obama for going into that hostile crowd, and putting forward some very reasonable, and thoughtful shades of Grey, the shades that apply to all Americans, not just the people who believe in fairy tales and fantasy lands, created in the past, by fishermen and goat-herders, and assembled in 300 AD by Constantine to feed the masses. After all, the real world is not lived in black and white, like in the 50's. These days it is technicolor, and we need a multi-cultural president who resides fully in this world, and the future, not one who is burrowed into his past Vietnam experience, in his cold-war view. McCain is yesterday, and Obama is the future!

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 11:27 AM
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1. I agree.
Obama took the time to explain his position because he respects the audience. McCain just issued edicts...this is how its going to be because I say so.

I think Grantcart had it right when he commented that Obama uses his religion to help guide his decision making, but McCain uses it so he doesn't have to think about it. Very insightful.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 11:32 AM
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3. It's the difference between claiming a religiona nad actually practicing it.
There are plenty of challenges in the Bible for thinking Christians.

Obama practices what he's been taught; McSame and Christians of his ilk feel they "own" it.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 11:30 AM
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2. His ass kissing compared to him ripping the Religious Right needs to be a commercial

With the end of the commercial asking? Which is the real McCain? Mr. Ass Kisser or Mr. I kick religious right ass?

We want to keep the Religious Right home and we really need to go after that base.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 11:35 AM
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4. Obama's religion is about culture & community, McCain's is about fundie powergrabbing nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-17-08 11:41 AM
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5. Black and white sums up the fundies' beliefs. There is no gray in their world. nt
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