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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 01:36 AM
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CQ Politics blogger Teagan Goddard picks up "Cross in the Dirt" story.
http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/politicalinsider/2008/08/is-mccain-now-copying-solzheni.html

Is McCain Now Copying Solzhenitsyn?

By Taegan Goddard | August 17, 2008 8:23 PM | Permalink | Comments (5)
Last week, a speech by Sen. John McCain had phrases that were likely lifted directly from Wikipedia.

Now it seems McCain may have lifted another story last night at megachurch pastor Rick Warren's Faith Forum. According to a very persuasive Daily Kos diary, the anecdote McCain told about a North Vietnamese prison guard making a cross in the dirt as a sign of solidarity -- or as he said, "just two Christians worshiping together" -- is very similar to a story about Alexander Solzhenitsyn and his times in the Soviet Gulags.

"As Solzhenitsyn stared at the Cross drawn in the dirt his entire perspective changed. He knew he was only one man against the all-powerful Soviet empire. Yet he knew there was something greater than the evil he saw in the prison camp, something greater than the Soviet Union. He knew that hope for all people was represented by that simple Cross. Through the power of the Cross, anything was possible."

Steven Waldman notes that McCain's recounting of this story has changed over the years and "has gradually morphed from being about the humanity of the guard to being about the Christian faith of the guard and John McCain."

Andrew Sullivan says that McCain's early accounts of his years as a POW do not even include this story.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 02:12 AM
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1. The suspension of disbelief required to envision a North Vietnamese guard as a Christian
Is staggering.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 02:24 AM
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2. and the man tells the last lie to kill his odds of the Oval Office
Will this be the Lie to do it?

Others will surely follow but will this be the one to start the momentum???
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 02:24 AM
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3. I sure hope so.
It's not like they can edit it out like CBS did.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 02:34 AM
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4. Truth finally rears her lovely Head after years of suppression...much to McLiars Dismay
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 06:44 AM
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8. You do recall that the French occupied Vietnam for a long time
Edited on Mon Aug-18-08 06:45 AM by hlthe2b
bringing with them, Catholicism.... Just sayin...


I don't buy McCain's story at face value, but not because I can't fathom a Christian among the Vietnamese...
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 10:35 AM
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9. The majority of Vietnamese were Buddhist and deeply resented the French rule
This would certainly be likely of a man who was chosen to be a guard of POWs. Do you think they didn't screen the applicants?
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 05:26 AM
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5. K & R!
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 05:36 AM
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6. k&r
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 05:47 AM
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7. The comment section needs some DUing
...it is currently being freeped.
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