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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 10:18 AM
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I'm feeling pretty f-ing good about Obama's chances
Edited on Mon Aug-18-08 10:24 AM by Onlooker
Obama never expected to get this far. I remember reading comments by him and others that suggested that. I think his primary campaign was a trial balloon for a race in 2012 or 2016. But, it took off, because he is charismatic and his campaign team was absolutely brilliant.

But, now they have a huge challenge. I doubt if they were as prepared for the general election as they were for the primary. So, while they figure it out, the Obama campaign is busy putting together local organizations, which can work together with the stronger Democratic local organizations that Howard Dean brought about. This will help Obama win some close races and make election fraud more difficult.

Also, knowing how charismatic Obama is, his campaign team doesn't want him to peak too soon. When he accepts the nomination, his speech will be of an order that people will want to hear more. The way we felt when we heard Obama speak his finest will return and many people will be hearing him for the first time. We will all be very excited after the Convention, and then Obama's numbers will start climbing. There won't be anything the McCain team can do about that, except hope their convention doesn't put everyone to sleep.

I predict that after the Convention, the Obama campaign will unleash as fresh a political strategy against the Republicans as they did against Hillary. It should be fun to watch and, to a small degree, be part of.

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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 10:28 AM
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1. I'm feeling less than 100% confident.
Not because of anything Obama is doing, because his campaign is the best-run I've ever seen. And he's a great candidate.

I'm just afraid of the other side--election fraud, scare tactics stirring up the Republican base--that kind of thing. I'm starting to hear it from my conservative relatives already. Obama's charisma is being compared to Hitler's on right-wing radio!

It's not good to get over-confident, because we all thought Kerry would certainly win last time. We have to remember that the whole electorate is not where we are at, and that this is still going to have to be a hard-fought battle. Obama and his team have to to everything right, and we have to keep donating and working at the grass-roots level in order for him to win a fraud-proof majority.

Because a slim victory can easily be stolen. We've seen it happen twice before.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 10:33 AM
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2. I'm with you.
There is much to be concerned about. The Repukes don't play nice, and they don't hand over power just because of silly things like "elections." There are many ways this can turn out badly.

Plus, I'm very concerned about the convention, and it turning into the Bill and Hillary Show. How they handle it, and what they do afterwards, may be crucial. I'm not optimistic about either scenario.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 10:37 AM
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3. If we lose,
it will be because the Dems hand it away by hysterically focusing on the wrong things and responding to bait.

I have been incredibly impressed at Obama's ability to stay cool and on message, so I still have hope.
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Heather MC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:48 AM
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13. True it seems like she and her surrogates got a lot of speaking roles, that's fishy
I wish he had put the clintons all on one night instead of spreading them out
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 09:09 AM
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15. We seen it before "Once". We will not let the GOP steal it this year
We got beat fair and square in 2004
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 10:39 AM
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4. I'm feeling good too. Obama is by most accounts leading and this is even before he selects a VP
or his convention speech. I see him getting a bigger boost out of his convention than McCain gets out of his. This is a change election and like 1980--Carter vs. Reagan the polls were close until near the end when people finally went to vote they said, "we want change" and they will do it again this year. I don't get too upset by the day by day fluctuations in polls. The trends are good for Dems this year and Obama will win.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 10:41 AM
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5. Obama's going to win by a lot...all this GOP posturing now is a down-ticket operation
Everybody knows McCain's going to get trashed. They're trying to reduce Obama's tailcoat effect in traditionally Republican districts.

The whole thing's a charade at this point.
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sshan2525 Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 11:13 AM
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6. Whistling past the graveyard, folks.......
Edited on Mon Aug-18-08 11:14 AM by sshan2525
We live in a country of idiots, racists and just plain poorly informed voters. If you are on this web site, you are among a huge minority who is getting (mostly) accurate information about the candidates and this election. The vast majority of people out there are getting what little info they have from the corporate media or worse, right wing talk radio or even their own uninformed neighbors/co-workers/ relatives. Combine that with the Repukes intention to lie, cheat & steal their way to victory at any cost with Obama's apparent unwillingness to face reality and fight back and you have the makings for 4 years of Gramps in the White House. Can we win? Of course but we will have to scrap and fight (dirty, if necessary) for every last vote in order to have a chance.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 12:28 PM
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7. I agree ...
I have been uneasy with a lot of the predictions of runaway victories here all along, and how ANYONE in the face of what has occured with his poling number the last month can think it will be a large victory is NOT dealing in reality ...

I have said for months now, they have AT LEAST one, probably two more month long Pastorgate type hammerings left in them against BO, and I mean SERIOUS crape throwing, not this steady "BO has a problem with this" nitpicking that has helped to tear him down the last two months ...

As someone else has noted, BO has run the best campaign in my life, and McCain's campaign has been a trainwreck ... Obama is smart, decent and unendingly intellectually honest ... McCain is a batshiite crazy half senile dolt ...

And, BO is barely ahead of the guy at this point ...

We KNOW this ... The repukes ARE going to lie, spin, cheat ... WHATEVER they can get away with, and the MSM is going to carry their water while they do it ...

I will be happy if BO has 271 EVs when the dust settles ...
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 01:27 PM
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8. They will lie and cheat.
We know it. And so many people out there want to believe the lies, because they are racist or afraid of big government Dems, or whatever their bias is. They are waiting to be convinced that McCain is better than he seems. They want the lies.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 09:05 AM
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14. I agree with you. We will have to register more voters, and get out the vote in a big way.
The republicans will stop at nothing to try to stop Obama from becoming the next president.
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Timmy5835 Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 02:28 PM
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9. Obama will win and win BIG
Edited on Mon Aug-18-08 02:29 PM by Timmy5835
Two main reasons, McCain is too old and too stupid. McCain is NOT very smart, he said it himself many times. Like Bush he's proud of the fact he graduated near the bottom of his class. Bottom line, I don't think the country is to kean on a Bush repeat. Like it or not their seems to be two simple truths about Obama, he's smart and moral. That will push him over the top...with points to spare.
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sshan2525 Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 02:46 PM
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10. Being smart does not get you elected in America.....
Carter was smarter than Reagan. Mondale was smarter than Reagan. Dukakis was smarter than Poppy. Gore & Kerry (and most shellfish) were smarter than chimpy. Clinton was an aberration. Need I say more?
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Timmy5835 Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-18-08 04:38 PM
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11. But the difference is............
Obama is running a smart campaign McCain is not. How many errors has Obama made compared to McCain? 'Nuff said.
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sshan2525 Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 08:33 AM
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12. To paraphrase Adlai Stevenson......
Edited on Tue Aug-19-08 08:34 AM by sshan2525
....who, when told by an admirer "All intelligent people will vote for you", replied "Thank you madam but I'd prefer to win". It's gonna take a lot more than smarts to win this one. Gramps may be running a half-assed campaign but it's still a dead heat. We've got to be twice as good as they are and almost as lucky to pull this one off.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 09:15 AM
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16. I'm still worried about that damn Bradley Effect..
Laugh and scoff if you want. The Bradley Effect is real, its been proven to many time. 4-6% of white people lie when asked about voting for a Black candidate.
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 09:21 AM
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17. be thinking of what we can do
to break into the momentum McCain is trying to steal from Obama by announcing his pick right after Denver!

Can we boycott the TV that night? Refuse to discuss his pick and vote down the articles about it? After all, who cares? They mikght as well get a card board cut out of Bush/Rove/Cheney and just stick it up McCone's as& -- oops, I meant next to him. stand next to him. Not implying that they are all a bunch of ass kissers of Rove's...puppets... no -- men, I'm sure, in their own right....Just can't talk or move without Rove daddy's help. You'd think at 73 McCone could be a man? His own man, finally? I guess he's still looking for approval from his admiral daddy, who must have really loathed this loser son of his who just couldn't stop embarrassing him in public with his turncoat behavior, his drinking his cheating his bottom of the class graduation, his hookers, etc. ewww.

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