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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:33 PM
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John McCain's sadistic North Vietnamese homosexual captors
Edited on Tue Aug-19-08 03:37 PM by kpete
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John McCain's sadistic North Vietnamese homosexual captors
John Aravosis (DC) · 8/19/2008 03:56:00 PM ET

Where did McCain get the notion that his captors were gay if they never hit on him? Were there any openly gay North Vietnamese soldiers in 1970? I'm going to guess no.

McCain's first personal account of his captivity and torture, for US News & Report.
They posted it online in January, but maybe it's because we're all so familiar with his tale at this point that no one noticed, until now, the bit where he says all his captors were homosexuals who got off on whipping him. No, that is not made up.
http://www.queerty.com/mccain-in-1973-vietnam-captors-homosexual-and-sadistic-20080818/

US News & Report.
Now I don't hate them any more—not these particular guys. I hate and detest the leaders. Some guards would just come in and do their job. When they were told to beat you they would come in and do it. Some seemed to get a big bang out of it. A lot of them were homosexual, although never toward us. Some, who were pretty damned sadistic, seemed to get a big thrill out of the beatings. http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/2008/01/28/john-mccain-prisoner-of-war-a-first-person-account.html?PageNr=8


Yes, ok. What?? How did POW McCain know they were gay if they weren't gay "toward him"? Were the homosexuals the ones who enjoyed the beatings or were the sadists a separate category? We have lots of unanswered questions here. Like—how come he mentions how gay the North Vietnamese were but leaves out that inspiring tale of the cross on the floor he mentioned last weekend?

http://www.americablog.com/2008/08/john-mccains-sadistic-north-vietnamese.html
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:38 PM
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1. Rape in prison isn't sexual it's a form of torture
Just as male on female rape is about power, dominance and humiliation.

Sounds to me that if McCain thinks his captures were gay he must have been, seen or heard them raping their prisoners. McCain may have escaped rape because he had some protection because of his parentage or because he was willing to squeal like a pig to avoid the rape.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:40 PM
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2. OMG
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:49 PM
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3. his conclusions were probably products of his fears and biases
Edited on Tue Aug-19-08 03:51 PM by TexasObserver
There's no easy way to say this, but I'll try.

The typical mannerisms of Vietnamese males were seen by many American soldiers as somewhat effeminate, really girlish. The way they squat. The way they would hold hands or touch while talking in a way western males do not. The way they walk in their backless sandals. The high pitched voices.

These were cultural things, like the way Russian men exchange kisses, but they were seen as more than they were.

Guys like McCain thought they were surrounded by Asian homosexuals, and everywhere they looked, they saw their fears and misapprehensions. If there is one thing we know about McCain, it's that the world looks very strange filtered through his brain.

I draw these conclusions because McCain has never really suggested that he SAW homosexual sex taking place. If he has said that, I'm not aware of it.

I'd be curious to see the thoughts of Clifford and Tahiti Nut on this topic.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 03:55 PM
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4. perhaps its the same reason I see many here accusing "evil" Republicans of being gay. nt.
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