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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:14 PM
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BIDEN: 'I'M NOT THE GUY'
BIDEN: 'I'M NOT THE GUY'

Posted: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 5:02 PM by Domenico Montanaro
Filed Under: 2008, Obama

From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli
As Delaware Sen. Joe Biden left his home a few minutes ago, golf clubs in tow, he was asked where he was going to be on Saturday.

Biden replied, "Here" and pointed down to his driveway.

As he pulled out of the driveway in the driver's seat of his car he then said to the press gathered near his gate, "You guys have better things to do. I'm not the guy."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/08/19/1276323.aspx
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:15 PM
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1. Its Kaine
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:18 PM
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9. He gets along best with Kaine, correct? nt
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:19 PM
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12. Brothers from different mothers...
But not that different; their moms are from the same town in KS.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:28 PM
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125. He get's along very well with Richardson too
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:28 PM
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126. He get's along very well with Richardson too
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:23 PM
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21. Yuck.
...
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:30 PM
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34. Why yuck?
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:32 PM
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40. Bland, does nothing for me, brings nothing to the ticket, no nat sec creds...
...and leaves a hole in the State he came from right?

Not a good choice all around...
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:45 PM
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63. He could bring Virginia with him
That's worth something. I'd have no objections.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:50 PM
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72. Kaine already said he didn't want it either
So that's 2 out. I'm hoping Clark or Richardson.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:01 PM
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79. I'm beginning to think it is Clinton!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:10 PM
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111. That would be the best birthday present for my mom.
Sounds like Barack and the VP will be in Ill on Saturday .... my mom's birthday. Mom's gonna be here in LA. If it's Hillary, you'll hear us scream all over the nation.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:31 PM
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129. wow you may be right! He said, "You won't be surprised." It would
show a strong gesture of goodwill, wouldn't it?
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 06:27 PM
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97. The Obama campaign already told Clark he's not welcome at the convention
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2008/08/obama_to_genera/

Obama to General Wesley Clark: Your Services Not Needed



General Wesley Clark is not attending the Democratic National Convention. I was told by General Clark's personal office in Little Rock that he would not be attending.

Clark was informed by Barack Obama's people that there was no reason to come.

General Clark has been given no role of any kind at the convention.

Rubbing salt in the wound even more, the "theme" of Wednesday's Democratic convention agenda is "Securing America."
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:29 PM
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128. Kaine said he didn't want it ?????? I never heard that.Details, please
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:15 PM
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2. That means next to nothing. He obviously isn't going to say he is the guy.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:08 PM
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108. But he volunteered that he wasn't the guy.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:16 PM
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3. Hmm, great curveball?
or maybe a slider, or, better yet, one of those sneaky pitches like a forkball?
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:16 PM
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4. he said that because I"m the guy.
Edited on Tue Aug-19-08 04:17 PM by mucifer
that's right, vice president mucifer!
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:16 PM
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5. Wow!
O.K., NOW who is it? Oh please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, LET IT BE WES CLARK!


:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:17 PM
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6. NNNNooooooooOOOOOOO
Biden golfs???? x(
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:17 PM
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7. Wow ....... that sounds pretty clear, why would he fool around nt
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:17 PM
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8. I dont buy it
Obama backs Biden's call for Georgia aid
By Sam Youngman
Posted: 08/19/08 10:13 AM

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, amid a fury of speculation about whom he will tap as his running mate, stoked that fire Tuesday by announcing his support for Sen. Joseph Biden's (D-Del.) call for $1 billion in aid to Georgia.

Obama, speaking to the Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) national convention in Orlando, Fla., responded to his Republican rival's attacks at the same venue and announced that he is joining Biden in calling for funds for reconstruction assistance in Georgia following recent Russian aggression.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obama-backs-bidens-call-for-georgia-aid-2008-08-19.html
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:18 PM
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10. Either he's not the guy -OR-
He really wanted them to get off his lawn. ;)

Would he know if he were "the guy"?


He would make such a damned fine SOS, that's what I'm really holding out for.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:19 PM
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14. I just pictured McCain yelling - Get off my lawn, in Abe Simpson's voice
:rofl:
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:20 PM
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15. And what's in the golf bag Senator?????
Hmmmmmmm.
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salonghorn70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:55 PM
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75. Could Be Golf Clubs?
Just a guess. :)
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:20 PM
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17. I prefer him as SoS
he'd be great
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:24 PM
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25. All the FP experience, without all the Washington baggage.
AND that frees up the VP slot for someone who'd actually run in 8 years.

Seems like a win/win to me.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:23 PM
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22. He said he never has worked under anyone, not a VP type nt
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:18 PM
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11. If Biden says he's not the guy, he may not be.
Strategy or not, I don't see him blatantly lying about it. It's possible, though...

So if not Biden, then who? Please not a Repuke-lite...
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:22 PM
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19. Then again, he may be saying it to throw us off. Or maybe he knows something.
My head hurts.

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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:28 PM
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30. I think I could go for something stronger right now.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:31 PM
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37. If he's not the guy, he knows it.
Obama has stated that he's made up his mind. This means that all the others who weren't chosen now know that they aren't the guy. Or girl.

Biden sounds cranky. I believe him.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:34 PM
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44. As of last night, the campaign said "the guy" (or gal) had not yet been notified. nt
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:35 PM
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51. But its standard procedure to notify the ones who weren't chosen first.
It's possible that Obama will keep them all guessing until he actually walks on stage with The One, a la Miss America, but it's unlikely.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:19 PM
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13. It's Feinstein. I can see right through this broken ankle cover story.
Oooo, or maybe it'll be Tom Ridge!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:11 PM
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112. You are BAD!!!!
:spank:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:20 PM
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16. I believe him. nt
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:21 PM
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18. Wait...how does he know it's a guy???
WHAT does Biden know??? :rofl:

This is WAY funny b/c Mr. Debi is about 30 minutes away from heading to the golf course!
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:22 PM
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20. Hmmm.......
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:23 PM
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23. Also, "I'm not the guy" makes it sound as if...
He knows who is, or at least knows that a decision has already been made.

I'm thinking Richardson is a possibility now. Biden and Richardson were both outstanding prospects for SOS. They can't both fill that position, so Obama would be smart to make sure one of them isn't wasted.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:24 PM
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26. Si! Richardson muy bueno for the hispanic vote, FL, CO, New Mexico nt
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:24 PM
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24. UT OH It might be Bayh nt
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:26 PM
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29. Right, Biden misquoted, actually said, "I'm not the Bayh"
:)
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:34 PM
Original message
,,,
:rofl:
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:34 PM
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48. He's just BIDEN his time......................... ha.....................ha!
sorry about that
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:25 PM
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27. I'm Not Gonna Rec This
I like Biden, but I like Clark more. But then again, who knows what this means?
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:28 PM
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31. If he actually said it, then it means he's saying he's not the guy.
Edited on Tue Aug-19-08 04:28 PM by Naturyl
What's unclear? Either he's not the guy or he's blatantly lying. That's a possibility - but not a good start to the bid if he is.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:29 PM
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32. I just don't want it to be Bayh or Kaine...they bring nothing to the ticket...
..and I'm not convinced they're Democrats either...

If General Clark is really out of the running then the only one I could take would be Richardson...
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 06:20 PM
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96. I wonder.... does the Obama campaign listen to the grassroots?
It's clear that the first, second and third choice of the vast majority of us on DU, Kos and other grassroots boards.

We are the people who do the work. Why would he go for the Beltway way of doing things? I thought he was about change.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:26 PM
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28. So...it's Bayh, Reed, Daschle, Sebelius, Nunn? Is that who's plausibly left?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:30 PM
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33. Also Gore, Clark, Clinton, Kaine, or Biden
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:31 PM
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38. Well, of those, Clinton and Kaine. I don't think Gore or Clark are all that plausible.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:42 PM
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59. Warner, Chet Edwards, someone we haven't even discussed...
:shrug:

Or maybe Biden, and he's just playing around. He might even have meant "Why don't you talk to Obama, he's the one, not me."
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:35 PM
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49. HILLARY, cough nt
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:31 PM
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35. Apparently CNN (king/blitzer) Doesn't Know This Yet
Big surprise there:sarcasm:
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aaroh Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:31 PM
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36. But how would the guy know he's the guy
if Obama hasn't told the guy?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:32 PM
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42. Biden was probably told earlier that he wasn't the guy.
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aaroh Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:47 PM
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64. but telling the people they're not the guy
defeats the purpose of keeping things hush hush.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:33 PM
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43. Exactly. Unless that guy has told Obama he'd rather be SOS?
:shrug:
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:32 PM
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39. Darn that sucks
He was best out of the supposed short list.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:32 PM
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41. Shaping up to be Sebelius..
Edited on Tue Aug-19-08 04:41 PM by DCBob
She will be in Iowa on Thursday -- just a a hop and skip to Springfield on Saturday. Could be.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:34 PM
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45. That would be a VERY interesting choice....
...throw LOTS of people for a loop...
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:39 PM
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54. yes it would.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:38 PM
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53. What to do about her son and that videogame, though?
That's a recipe for disaster.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:48 PM
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66. Please update me on this scandal.
I am not familiar with it.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:50 PM
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70. It's a boardgame.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:57 PM
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77. Sounds kind of funny to me.
But I guess the media and the wacko wingnuts will make a big deal out of it. I don't think it's showstopper -- her son is an adult and she has no control over his career or profession.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:21 PM
Original message
She blew it off, then defended it...
That's the problem.
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Arnold Judas Rimmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:34 PM
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46. See ya at the confirmation hearings, Joe!
You're a shoe-in for Secretary of State.

Now enough of this crap and bring on Vice President Richardson. :)
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:35 PM
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50. He'll make an excellent Secretary of State!
:patriot:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:43 PM
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61. He or Clark would be great as SoS.
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:34 PM
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It's Bayh, Clinton, or Clark (in that order) NO DOUBT
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Fire_brand Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:34 PM
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47. So, he does admit that it is a GUY...
j/k
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:49 PM
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67. Or maybe he was just saying that HE is a guy.
:P
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:36 PM
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52. If he WAS the guy, I don't think he would have alluded to it at all.
It sounds like they weren't asking, that he just volunteered the info.

I believe him.

Hope this means he's got the SOS wrapped up!
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:40 PM
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55. Good. It's Clark.
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:43 PM
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60. Or Bayh or Clinton :-)
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:49 PM
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68. That Would ROCK My World!
:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 06:30 PM
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98. Team Obama has already told Clark he is not welcome at the convention
Obama to General Wesley Clark: Your Services Not Needed
Saturday, Aug 16 2008, 12:17PM



General Wesley Clark is not attending the Democratic National Convention. I was told by General Clark's personal office in Little Rock that he would not be attending.

Clark was informed by Barack Obama's people that there was no reason to come.

General Clark has been given no role of any kind at the convention.

Rubbing salt in the wound even more, the "theme" of Wednesday's Democratic convention agenda is "Securing America."

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2008/08/obama_to_genera/
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:40 PM
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56. IT IS OBVIOUSLY KATHLEEN SEBELIUS!
She is the ONLY one to have not commented at this point. Her silence is deafening.

I would be willing to bet $100 that she's the pick.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:54 PM
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74. Saw her speak today, here in Michigan.
She is one cool customer!

When asked, she didn't say "I'm not the guy"!
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:05 PM
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81. I donno WTF you are talking about. She was actually asked about it today and she said
that she was not even spoken to about being the VP.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 09:30 PM
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134. NOOOOOOO!!!!
sorry for the outburst :(
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phrenzy Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:41 PM
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57. Hostel Part II Quote
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:42 PM
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58. Does that mean
the so called list of three the damned dumb recipients of informed leaks have been touting were not only not official(everyone made it sound official) but incorrect? This is typical and the GOP has been interfering in the rumor mill and putting unbelievably bad, even credulous picks out there while trashing the good names. The press suckers follow that lead every time.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:44 PM
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62. He wouldn't say if he was. All 3 have denied it ... as you would expect.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:51 PM
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73. Kaine has never denied it.
For the record.

He dodges the question by saying, "I'm not asking for it" and "I'm not going to tell you what discussed between myself and the campaign".
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:15 PM
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114. He said he "wasn't in the frame".
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:48 PM
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65. Maybe
He meant,

"I'm not the guy you should be f@*king with right now, cause I'm late for golf."
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:49 PM
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69. lol!
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:50 PM
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71. Obama's pick might not know yet.
The NY Times late yesterday reported that Obama hadn't made any phone calls to the finalists. Maybe he still hasn't. Biden might not be aware of that and assume (incorrectly) that because no call has come, it's not him.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:55 PM
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76. The more I think about it the more I think Clark or Richardson are the smarter choices
I think Biden is great and would be honored to have him as VP, but I really think that Clark and Richardson bring more to the table that really could put Obama over the top. Clark has the stellar military career along with NATO commander of Kosovo. (BTW Clark was valedictorian at West Point whereas McCain was like bottom 5 of his Naval Academy class).

Richardson brings to the table the hispanic vote, which is a major voting segment out there that has yet to be utilized. I keep thinking that McCain will try to trump Obama being African-American by finding either a woman or a minority to run for his VP. Selecting someone like Bill Richardson would burst that bubble.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:55 PM
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91. Richardson: Latino vote and Attack Dog in Disguise! nt
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 04:58 PM
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78. Wow. Intrade's already reacting.
Biden down 0.8.
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BklynChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:02 PM
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80. I don't believe him, I mean what's he gonna say "I'm your man." It's a fake.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:06 PM
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82. They haven't told ANY of the contenders ANYTHING - Biden doesn't know. -nt
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:08 PM
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84. In other words, RIGHT NOW, he's NOT the guy. -nt
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mystieus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:06 PM
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83. Go!!! Sebelius!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:21 PM
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85. Video here -
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:24 PM
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86. Yikes.
He sounded disappointed. That sounded like a man who had just gotten bad news. If he was faking, he's a pretty good actor.

:(
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:28 PM
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87. Oh-Oh
Seeing and hearing that, I think he's tellin ' the truth. If he'd have said "That's unlikely," there'd be more"wiggle room."
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:36 PM
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88. were they actually down in his driveway? I hope that's a shared driveway.
I feel bad for anyone having their house staked out.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 06:16 PM
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95. Seeing the video, it's obvious what he meant
He's not the Vice Presidential pick. Reading what Biden said made it a bit ambiguous to me, but now I'm sure he meant he's not Obama's choice.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:42 PM
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89. Obama must be sitting back having a hoot at all the controversy
his VP pick seems to be making....I can't believe he'd be unaware...wb
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:53 PM
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90. Publicity and coverage like this is pricey, in that sense our madness here is a favor keep it up! nt
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AmericanUnity Donating Member (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 05:56 PM
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92. IF HE WAITS TIL SATURDAY I THINK IT'S EITHER HILLARY OR CLARK (WHO'S FROM ILLINOIS)
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:20 PM
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121. I'm praying it's Hillary!
The Illinois connection could be true.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 09:01 PM
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132. Both were born in Chicago...n/t
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 06:10 PM
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93. Who is "the guy"? It sounds pretty nonspecific, as in a non-denial denial.
I am not saying he is the candidate, but saying he is not "the guy" tells us nothing. "The guy" could be just about any man in the world, "the VP candidate" would be much more specific. He did not get specific though he just said he is not "the guy". If he were the VP he would obviously be under strict orders not to talk about it until the announcement is made, so this would be a statement he could make to get the press off his back without actually denying anything other than that he is "the guy".
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 06:15 PM
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94. Mitchell and Fineman are saying that the Top 3 have not been informed either way.
So, well played Joe. I guess you just wanted them off your lawn after all.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 06:42 PM
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99. I'd believe Biden would know better if he's been informed than
Mitchell and Fineman.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 06:45 PM
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100. Unless he was deliberately misleading the press.
I would also hope that Biden would know better than to leak the info that it WASN'T him.

Rule #1 of VP Club: Don't talk about VP club (let the campaign speak for you)
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 06:46 PM
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101. if it's not him, he's not in the VP club anymore - maybe he wants press to go away. nt
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 06:50 PM
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103. If he's no longer in VP club, he's definitely in Cabinet club.
I agree, what he said sounded authentic. But I'm a bit disappointed that he would talk to the press about it either way.
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:18 PM
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119. Deleted - obsolete.
Edited on Tue Aug-19-08 07:24 PM by DFLforever
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 06:50 PM
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102. I think he would have waved and kept on driving. They weren't shouting
questions at him -- he volunteered the info.


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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:05 PM
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104. I think you're right
And there was nothing coy in the way he said it.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:13 PM
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113. Olbermann and Todd are saying not to take it seriously. nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:15 PM
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117. I really like Olbermann and Todd. But I trust Biden. I believe him. nt
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:17 PM
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118. Biden just clarified his statement.
He hasn't spoken to the campaign and doesn't know either way.

So I don't know what this whole charade was about.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:19 PM
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120. Where did he clarify his statement? Thanks. nt
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:20 PM
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122. Sorry. Olbermann reported it.
Apparently he returned from golf to find he had started a shitstorm with his "statement".
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:22 PM
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123. He sure start a shitstorm!
:spank:

Well WTF?

Thanks for clarifying.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:25 PM
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124. WTF, indeed.
This is getting so tired.

But the good news is that the longer they string us along, the less I seem to care who the pick will be. Only Bayh would infuriate me at this point.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:28 PM
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127. Yeah - I know how you feel. Ditto. nt
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:07 PM
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106. For a man with Biden's ego, he would not mislead the reporters about his VP chances
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 11:13 PM
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137. But if he did, I like that! He's playin' nt
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:06 PM
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105. Chuck Todd still saying it's Biden.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:08 PM
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107. Chuck Todd does not know what he is talking about.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:08 PM
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109. So, what does he know that everybody else doesn't ?
I'd say probably nothing.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:09 PM
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110. Chuckie Thinks A Lot Of Himself
I never could stand him, going back to his snooty days at c-spin.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:15 PM
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116. Joe Biden clarifies statement: "I don't know anything".
So there you have it.
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 09:04 PM
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133. Perhaps Obama called him and said...WTF Man? WTF?
:rofl:
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 11:12 PM
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136. I could imagine that lol nt
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Think82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:15 PM
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115. I'm pretty sure he was joking... Like "I'm not Joe Biden"
..."I'm not the guy you're looking for!" So get off my lawn!
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #115
135. Actually, I think you're right. Or,
he was misunderstood and said, "fuck off and die."
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:36 PM
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130. Glad to hear that...he needs to stay in Senate to help Obama...I'm hoping for a surprise...
a "good surprise" though...not some thing like Gore surprised us with Lieberman and we had to make Lemonade out of lemons" to figure out how to put a good spin on him. Then look what Lieberman has done to the Dem Party.

I'm hoping for GOOD SURPRISE...that everyone will LOVE!
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 07:40 PM
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131. he's not the guy who won American Idol
i don't see how this is relevant.
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