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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 09:50 PM
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Barack Obama and Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg for Veep:
Edited on Tue Aug-19-08 09:53 PM by marylanddem

I know this would PROBABLY be too good to be true - but think how GOOD-LOOKING the two of them are & would be together. With SO much charisma. And charm. I'm kind of in love with this idea, to tell you the truth.
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 09:53 PM
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1. I'm not (in love w/the idea),
Even tho I'm quite fond of her.
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newfie11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 09:54 PM
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2. Nope
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:03 PM
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3. If it's too good to be true for her to be a vice president, it would
be a noble appointment for Obama to have her run the National Endowment of the Arts.

I think she's an amazing soul, no matter what she may do in an Obama-era presidency.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:47 PM
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4. Michael Moore also wants Caroline for Veep...
Here's the e-mail I got from him a little while ago:

"Caroline: Pull a Cheney!"

An Open Letter to Caroline Kennedy (head of the Obama VP search team) from Michael Moore

Dear Caroline,

We've never met, so I hope you don't find this letter too presumptuous or inappropriate. As its contents involve the public's business, I am sending this to you via the public on the Internet. I knew your brother John. He was a great guy, and I know he would've had a ball during this thrilling and historic election year. We all miss him dearly.

Barack Obama selected you to head up his search for a vice presidential candidate. It appears we may be just days (hours?) away from learning who that choice will be.

The media is reporting that Senator Obama has narrowed his alternatives to three men: Joe Biden, Evan Bayh and Tim Kaine. They're all decent fellows, but they are far from the core of what the Obama campaign has been about: Change. Real change. Out with the old. And don't invade countries that pose no threat to us.

Senators Biden and Bayh voted for that invasion and that war, the war Barack ran against, the war Barack reminded us was the big difference between him and Senator Clinton because she voted for the war and he spoke out against it while running for Senate (a brave and bold thing to do back in 2002).

For Obama to place either of these senators on the ticket would be a huge blow to the millions that chose him in the primaries over Hillary. He will undercut one of the strongest advantages he has over the Hundred-Year War senator, Mr. McCain. By anointing a VP who did what McCain did in throwing us into this war, Mr. Obama will lose the moral high ground in the debates.

As for Governor Kaine of Virginia, his big problem is, well, Obama's big problem -- who is he? The toughest thing Barack has had to overcome -- and it will continue to be his biggest obstacle -- is that too many of the voters simply don't know him well enough to vote for him. The fact that Obama is new to the scene is both one of his most attractive qualities AND his biggest drawback. Too many Americans, who on the surface seem to like Barack Obama, just don't feel comfortable voting for someone who hasn't been on the national scene very long. It's a comfort level thing, and it may be just what keeps Obama from winning in November ("I'd rather vote for the devil I know than the devil I don't know").

What Obama needs is a vice presidential candidate who is NOT a professional politician, but someone who is well-known and beloved by people across the political spectrum; someone who, like Obama, spoke out against the war; someone who has a good and generous heart, who will be cheered by the rest of the world; someone whom we've known and loved and admired all our lives and who has dedicated her life to public service and to the greater good for all.

That person, Caroline, is you.

I cannot think of a more winning ticket than one that reads: "OBAMA-KENNEDY."

Caroline, I know that nominating yourself is the furthest idea from your mind and not consistent with who you are, but there would be some poetic justice to such an action. Just think, eight years after the last head of a vice presidential search team looked far and wide for a VP -- and then picked himself (a move topped only by his hubris to then lead the country to near ruin while in office) -- along comes Caroline Kennedy to return the favor with far different results, a vice president who helps restore America to its goodness and greatness.

Caroline, you are one of the most beloved and respected women in this country, and you have been so admired throughout your life. You chose a life outside of politics, to work for charities and schools, to write and lecture, to raise a wonderful family. But you did not choose to lead a private life. You have traveled the world and met with its leaders, giving you much experience on the world stage, a stage you have been on since you were a little girl.

The nation has, remarkably (considering our fascination with celebrity), left you alone and let you live your life in peace. (It's like, long ago, we all collectively agreed that, with her father tragically gone, a man who died because he wanted to serve his country, we would look out for her, we would wish for her to be happy and well, and we would have her back. But we would let her be.)

Now, I am breaking this unwritten code and asking you to come forward and help us in our hour of need. So many families are hurting, losing their homes, going bankrupt with health care bills, seeing their public schools in shambles and living with this war without end. This is a historic year for women, from Hillary's candidacy to the numerous women running for the House and Senate. This is the year that a woman should be on the Democratic ticket. This is the year that both names on that ticket should be people OUTSIDE the party machine. This is the year millions of independents and, yes, millions of Republicans are looking for something new and fresh and bold (and you are the Kennedy Republicans would vote for!).

This is the moment, Caroline. Seize it! And Barack, if you're reading this, you probably know that she is far too humble and decent to nominate herself. So step up and surprise us again. Step up and be different than every politician we have witnessed in our lifetime. Keep the passion burning amongst the young people and others who have been energized by your unexpected, unpredicted, against-all-odds candidacy that has ignited and inspired a nation. Do it for all those reasons. Make Caroline Kennedy your VP. "Obama-Kennedy." Wow, does that sound so cool.

Caroline, thanks for letting me intrude on your life. How wonderful it will be to have a vice president who will respect the Constitution, who will support (instead of control) her president, who will never let her staff out a CIA agent, and who will never tell her country that she is "currently residing in an undisclosed location."

Say it one more time: "OBAMA-KENNEDY." A move like that might send a message to the country that the Democrats would actually like to win an election for once.

Yours,
Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
MichaelMoore.com

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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 11:02 PM
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5. WTF? Moore is arguing that a KENNEDY represents change? Give it a rest, Michael. AND the VP is secon
in line to the Presidency, so why does he think the public would feel she is prepared to take on that position when she has no political experience?
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 06:07 AM
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12. Moore is a great guy and a great progressive however
his political instincts are sometimes shitty as hell. I remember him during the 2004 democratic primary standing next to Clark repeating we got a General and a war hero with a ridiculous look on his face over and over again.

That isn't to disparage Clark. I think if he would have gotten into the race earlier and had gotten some of the better talent as campaign advisor he could have beat Kerry.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 11:29 PM
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6. She has displayed zero interest
in any kind of public office in the past fifty years, so it's not a particularly good suggestion.
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monomach Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 11:52 PM
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7. I like her as much as the next guy, but that'd probably give McCain the White House
I like Paul MCartney, too. Doesn't mean he should be VP.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 05:37 AM
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8. She has no political experience.
And yet, while risky, I think that would be a fantastic choice.
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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 05:59 AM
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9. Ditto this twosome from Michael Moore......got this e-mail from him.
Dear Caroline,

We've never met, so I hope you don't find this letter too presumptuous or inappropriate. As its contents involve the public's business, I am sending this to you via the public on the Internet. I knew your brother John. He was a great guy, and I know he would've had a ball during this thrilling and historic election year. We all miss him dearly.

Barack Obama selected you to head up his search for a vice presidential candidate. It appears we may be just days (hours?) away from learning who that choice will be.

The media is reporting that Senator Obama has narrowed his alternatives to three men: Joe Biden, Evan Bayh and Tim Kaine. They're all decent fellows, but they are far from the core of what the Obama campaign has been about: Change. Real change. Out with the old. And don't invade countries that pose no threat to us.

Senators Biden and Bayh voted for that invasion and that war, the war Barack ran against, the war Barack reminded us was the big difference between him and Senator Clinton because she voted for the war and he spoke out against it while running for Senate (a brave and bold thing to do back in 2002).

For Obama to place either of these senators on the ticket would be a huge blow to the millions that chose him in the primaries over Hillary. He will undercut one of the strongest advantages he has over the Hundred-Year War senator, Mr. McCain. By anointing a VP who did what McCain did in throwing us into this war, Mr. Obama will lose the moral high ground in the debates.

As for Governor Kaine of Virginia, his big problem is, well, Obama's big problem -- who is he? The toughest thing Barack has had to overcome -- and it will continue to be his biggest obstacle -- is that too many of the voters simply don't know him well enough to vote for him. The fact that Obama is new to the scene is both one of his most attractive qualities AND his biggest drawback. Too many Americans, who on the surface seem to like Barack Obama, just don't feel comfortable voting for someone who hasn't been on the national scene very long. It's a comfort level thing, and it may be just what keeps Obama from winning in November ("I'd rather vote for the devil I know than the devil I don't know").

What Obama needs is a vice presidential candidate who is NOT a professional politician, but someone who is well-known and beloved by people across the political spectrum; someone who, like Obama, spoke out against the war; someone who has a good and generous heart, who will be cheered by the rest of the world; someone whom we've known and loved and admired all our lives and who has dedicated her life to public service and to the greater good for all.

That person, Caroline, is you.

I cannot think of a more winning ticket than one that reads: "OBAMA-KENNEDY."

Caroline, I know that nominating yourself is the furthest idea from your mind and not consistent with who you are, but there would be some poetic justice to such an action. Just think, eight years after the last head of a vice presidential search team looked far and wide for a VP -- and then picked himself (a move topped only by his hubris to then lead the country to near ruin while in office) -- along comes Caroline Kennedy to return the favor with far different results, a vice president who helps restore America to its goodness and greatness.

Caroline, you are one of the most beloved and respected women in this country, and you have been so admired throughout your life. You chose a life outside of politics, to work for charities and schools, to write and lecture, to raise a wonderful family. But you did not choose to lead a private life. You have traveled the world and met with its leaders, giving you much experience on the world stage, a stage you have been on since you were a little girl.

The nation has, remarkably (considering our fascination with celebrity), left you alone and let you live your life in peace. (It's like, long ago, we all collectively agreed that, with her father tragically gone, a man who died because he wanted to serve his country, we would look out for her, we would wish for her to be happy and well, and we would have her back. But we would let her be.)

Now, I am breaking this unwritten code and asking you to come forward and help us in our hour of need. So many families are hurting, losing their homes, going bankrupt with health care bills, seeing their public schools in shambles and living with this war without end. This is a historic year for women, from Hillary's candidacy to the numerous women running for the House and Senate. This is the year that a woman should be on the Democratic ticket. This is the year that both names on that ticket should be people OUTSIDE the party machine. This is the year millions of independents and, yes, millions of Republicans are looking for something new and fresh and bold (and you are the Kennedy Republicans would vote for!).

This is the moment, Caroline. Seize it! And Barack, if you're reading this, you probably know that she is far too humble and decent to nominate herself. So step up and surprise us again. Step up and be different than every politician we have witnessed in our lifetime. Keep the passion burning amongst the young people and others who have been energized by your unexpected, unpredicted, against-all-odds candidacy that has ignited and inspired a nation. Do it for all those reasons. Make Caroline Kennedy your VP. "Obama-Kennedy." Wow, does that sound so cool.

Caroline, thanks for letting me intrude on your life. How wonderful it will be to have a vice president who will respect the Constitution, who will support (instead of control) her president, who will never let her staff out a CIA agent, and who will never tell her country that she is "currently residing in an undisclosed location."

Say it one more time: "OBAMA-KENNEDY." A move like that might send a message to the country that the Democrats would actually like to win an election for once.

Yours,
Michael Moore

I got this e-mail from Michael Moore. :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 05:59 AM
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10. silly idea. and it sounds like all you care about is how they look
She has no relevant experience. And I'm not knocking her. she's an intelligent and accomplished person.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 06:01 AM
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11. From Yesterday
I don't have time to find the link but in Breaking news he was quoted as saying "My VP won't be like Cheney" if he/she won't be like Cheney picking he/she like Cheney would be the wrong message.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 06:10 AM
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13. She'd be awful
She's a narcissist, I think, obsessed with her family name (3 books on her family; her big project is Profile in Courage, again promoting her family name), and compared to any other vice presidential candidate she has done very, very little for anyone other than the Kennedy's. Look at Wikipedia, and tell me what she has done in the last 10 years that makes her anything other than a well-connected rich person.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Kennedy

I find it embarrassing that Obama even made her part of his VP candidate committee, but like I said she is well connected.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 06:20 AM
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14. Sorry you feel that way.
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