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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:02 PM
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Is there a potential VP candidate left that Democrats haven't picked apart?
I ask, because every week a new name appears, and with that name comes a lot of criticism of why he or she can't be the VP nominee.

Is there someone we haven't yet thought about - someone that a majority of Democrats would say, "Yeah, he/she's it!" ???
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MrsT Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:04 PM
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1. Zombie FDR?
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inthebrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:12 PM
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10. You've been listening to too much Louis Black.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 05:58 AM
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31. ROFL!
Now THAT made me laugh. :D
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:05 PM
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2. Like Obama as our candidate, there is no perfect VP candidate.
Everybody has plusses and minuses, strengths and weaknesses. We just need to accept that and some have trouble with that notion.
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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:06 PM
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4. Excellent point. n/t
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rwheeler31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:05 PM
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3. Sanders
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:11 PM
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9. 1. Sanders 2. Feingold 3. Boxer
In that order.

Please!
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:07 PM
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5. Richardson never made the MSM's short list, even though he is an excellent choice
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:07 PM
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6. Me. Have at it.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:08 PM
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7. Nah.

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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:08 PM
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8. I don't think Dodd has been run through the ringer too much
Feingold?

Sebelius?
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:18 PM
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11. Kerry is perfect. He doesn't overshadow Obama. nt
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:53 PM
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I agree, they compliment each other. n/t
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:33 PM
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12. Amabo Kcarab
I don't think they've picked him apart enough yet :)
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:49 PM
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13. Find me ONE problem with Schweitzer.
Unless you actually believe that, in this campaign, some abstract "experience" level is more important than what the VP actually says, I challenge anybody to find an issue with Schweitzer.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:53 PM
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15. I thought I heard
that he supported Romney at one point. I will try and find a link.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:56 PM
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16. Yes, he did. ...and since, he's said that the Romney he knew then is not the Romney
we all see today.
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grillo7 Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 11:59 PM
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21. What about Bob Graham? Or Feingold? Bloomberg even... n/t
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 12:05 AM
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22. They're all "old guard". They don't fit with the "change" theme and they don't bring rural America.
Two points:

1) As I see it, Obama's only real weak point is the same weak point we've had since 2000...rural America. None of your candidates speak to rural America like Schweitzer does.

2) At least part of Obama's appeal to the public (Dems, Indys, and crossover Repubs) is "change". Can you honestly say that Graham, Feingold or Bloomberg represent change? They absolutely run contrary to Obama's theme.
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grillo7 Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 12:23 AM
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25. The problem can become too much change, though...
There are plenty of Americans who are already uncomfortable with Obama's relatively new political career...it wouldn't help him to have an even less well-known candidate on the ticket. I think Schweitzer'd great--he was my early favorite--but the race is too close to choose him. We need someone with broad name recognition who can not only appeal to rural America like you mentioned, but also have name recognition and a record of good judgment (i.e. voted against the Iraq war resolution).
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 12:29 AM
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27. See, I'd agree if the VP was a minority or a woman.
I think that WOULD be "too much change" for many.

Schweitzer is a stocky western white guy who brings his dog to the office. He's not "scary change", he's "a guy who's never worked in Washington who talks and acts like us".

I don't think America's nearly as concerned with amorphous "experience" as they are with having political representatives who listen to and understand them. If that's true, Schweitzer is a fantastic choice.
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grillo7 Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 02:34 AM
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28. Good point
I really think you're right about Schweitzer, but he's the exception. I don't think any of the other "change" VP candidates could pull it off. Unfortunately--if the leaks are to be believed--it doesn't seem like he's one of the choices being vetted...
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CarbonDate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 05:06 AM
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30. Uh, do you know anything about Feingold?
He'd absolutely represent change from the current status quo. He's the closest thing to Paul Wellstone we have in the Senate right now. Yes, including Obama.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:53 PM
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14. Well, Kerry has been picked to the bone. There ain't anymore meat to pick from this man.
To ban too, because he and Senator Obama are both progressive and they compliment each other. To hell with what the media has to say about it.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:56 PM
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17. There will be a negative pointed out for everyone
What Obama needs to do is balance the negatives with the positives and also intangibles (the chemistry he feels he would have with the pick.)
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 12:11 AM
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23. Gimme one for Schweitzer.
Unless you really think that the amorphous "experience" thing is more important to the average voter than change, what negative does Schweitzer have?

He's smart. He's a popular Dem in a Repub state. He has international (Middle Eastern) experience...he even speaks Arabic. He has a workable, defined energy policy...not just energy "philosophies". He connects with Obama's only weak segment of voters...rural America.

Virtually no negatives...a ton of positives.

How is Schweitzer not the best choice if we want to win in November and prosper afterwards?
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 12:15 AM
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24. People have mentioned his previous Romney praise
Edited on Wed Aug-20-08 12:16 AM by mvd
I'm not justifying it - just saying it was put out there. He's one of my top choices.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 12:24 AM
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26. He absolutely did say that. He also said that the Romney he knew then
is not the Romney who we know today.


Yeah, I'm biased, but I can't hold that against him...especially when he revokes his praise in such a politically advantageous way.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 10:58 PM
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18. What about Kaine, is he that uninteresting? No one gets into his postives/negatives much... nt
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musicblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 11:05 PM
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19. Kaine is against civil unions
Though Bayh stated that he would support an amendment to the constitution to define marriage as between a man and a woman if need be. So Kaine isn't the absolute worst... just not the best.
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Independent_Voice Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 04:04 AM
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29. Nope, Kaine is the worst
Bayh never came out against civil unions. He also said he would only support the Federal Marriage Amendment if courts in Indiana overturn Indiana's status quo of heterosexual marriage. (Bayh voted for Marilyn Musgrave's version of FMA when it came up for a procedural vote in the Senate)

Kaine opposes civil unions. Public record.

Deal.Breaker.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-19-08 11:19 PM
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20. Dodd
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 06:19 AM
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32. You could start with this list:
and start crossing names off:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama_endorsements

I started, but there's too many on there I don't know enough about. I don't think I have the time or resources that Caroline Kennedy has.
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