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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:15 PM
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Many people wanted John Edwards as John Kerry's Veep Choice in 2004. How did that work out?
John Kerry's hand was forced in my opinion back in 2004.

Is that what we want to do again?

I don't.

Let the Nominee pick his Veep.......as he earned that right.

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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:16 PM
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1. You have never had anything good to say about John Edwards
go away
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:18 PM
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2. ANd John Edwards fell flat on his face.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:19 PM
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3. LOL! Yes, we who didn't care for Edwards were sure proven wrong by
Edited on Wed Aug-20-08 03:19 PM by wienerdoggie
what a swell and honorable guy he turned out to be.
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:30 PM
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12. He's a politician. I don't give a shit who he's sleeping with,
just as I didn't care about Monica, don't care about McCain's affair, etc. Just as I don't care who my doctor is sleeping with. I care whether or not they can do the job they're running for. !
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:41 PM
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18. I, too, don't care who he's sleeping with. I do care about who he's illegally
paying off with campaign money, though.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:19 PM
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4. I'm sorry if my statement bends you out of shape.
and no, I'm not going anywhere.

I have for the most part not expressed any opinions on John Edwards in quite some time.
not even in reference to some recent revelations. So please stop the outrage and excuse the hell out of me for mentioning his name as it pertained to the Vice President selection of 2004.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:21 PM
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5. Here is your last mealy-mouthed comment about John Edwards
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:24 PM
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10. What Frenchie says is true though

opinions=mealy-mouthed comments? Maybe YOU should
go away!
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:30 PM
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13. I should not have said "mealy-mouthed", I should have said "vacuous"
...as in "contentless". Go read the 2007 thread. He said nothing.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:44 PM
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20. You are quoting me in January of 2007?
erh.....I have never made it a secret that I didn't care for John Edwards.
Sorry if I had any sway in the fact that he is not the nominee.

How can I make it up to you?
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:24 PM
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8. And Frenchie isn';t the one who had an affair
and lied about it.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:27 PM
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11. Personal opinions about JE do not change...
the fact that he was more or less forced on John Kerry, and it was a very poor fit. I don't know why Kerry bought into that stuff. Edwards had a great PR team pushing him out front, and it worked. This year it has been a bit better since I don't see anybody that is actually running for VP, though the "top four" crap the media has been talking about is nauseating.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:31 PM
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14. .
:popcorn:
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:22 PM
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6. I never understood all the hoopla over Edwards (nt)

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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:23 PM
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7. Kerry's VP was irrelevant in 2004
Unless he was from Ohio or Florida. No other major state was potentially swayed by a VP and the VP is laughably overstated otherwise. I love these threads that assert a VP will influence entire regions or voting blocks.

I'd be thrilled with Hillary but if Obama picks her nothing changes, other than a few points in Arkansas that won't be enough, and a handful of unneeded points in New York.

Edwards was worth precisely what he figured to bring, and what I predicted on this forum for months, a bump of 3-3.5 points in North Carolina. The partisan index (state relationship to national margin) moved 3.3 points in our favor in that state, comparing 2004 to 2000.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:24 PM
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9. And his penis ruined it for him this time around, I actually hoped
he would be consider for at least a position in the Obama administration.

Now he won't be able to take out the garbage in the White House.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:39 PM
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16. Just like Clinton? What a liablity he was, eh? Read this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1110165.stm

Strange to relate, you won't find a word about his economic legacy in his Wikipedia entry. Well, I think I scanned it fairly closely.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:42 PM
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19. You honestly think that his admitted adultery will still qualify him for a position
in the Obama administration? I for one would scream bloody murder, because his biggest fan and supporter was his wife, and he stabbed her in the back in her greatest time of need,

This was a case where penis diplomacy mattered.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:35 PM
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15. Edwards had the second most votes
though he couldn't carry his own home state.

Then again, Edwards wsn't really the problem in 2004. He didn't really hurt the ticket- though he also didn't add anything.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:40 PM
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17. And who was pushing it? It was reported that the Clintons were and Bill Clinton
Edited on Wed Aug-20-08 03:43 PM by Skwmom
was the first one to call Edwards after he was picked. Sounded right to me since his goons, Carville and Begala were singing Edwards praises during the primary.

And I was told by a long-time party Democrat (a really nice lady) that it was to be a Kerry/Edwards ticket, they would lose but not by much, and Hillary would run in 08. Then there was the one talking head, Susan Estrich, crowing about how Clinton was such a political genius AFTER the Kerry/Edwards ticket was decided.

This is a last minute effort by the Clinton gang to get Hillary on the ticket. And if they don't succeed, what the heck, they can piss off some of her supporters and help McCain.

They've been pushing Obama to pick a Washington Insider because they are desperate to paint him as another Washington politician (and McCain the true maverick). I hope he's smart enough to run in the other direction.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-20-08 03:46 PM
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21. Edwards did nothing to lose the election for Kerry
I agree with your overall point, but I'm not sure what you can point to that lays the blame for 2004 on Edwards.
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