New Obama Campaign Strategy: "both parties are on the take & have made mistakes...."

(paraphrase) ...it's in a fairly long clip CNN just reported. He was telling folks that "I can't promise I'll bring back every job you've lost...but I can make things a little better for you and you can believe in that." He goes on to say that "...I have respect for John McCain he is a war hero and spent time as a POW, and I honor that but what is he going to do for you now?" He goes on to say,"both parties are taking money and have made mistakes and it's going to take hard work to bring a change in this."

There was more...but it came off sounding like there was no difference in the two parties except that electing him would make things "...a little bit better." (He repeated "a little bit better" several times.

MY ADVICE TO OBAMA! Do NOT campaign when you have a bad cold...like most of us who get cranky and down when we aren't feeling well we can be a "cloud of gloom" rather that "a bright ray of sunshine."

Obama needs to take a day off and stay in bed with some hot chicken soup....SHEESH... I feel badly for him because given the Convention is starting and with that Veep thing still up in the air...he isn't going to have a chance to take care of himself like he should. Bad timing...for a cold...and it's not good to make your own party sound weak..even if we know many of our Dems have been as much "on the take" as the Repugs"...it just doesn't sound good. Neither does things getting "...a little bit better" if we elect him.

it's what the Average American sees. What they see will decide this election and most of them aren't able to spend all the time the rest of us are...tracking down links to verify everything.

This was not a good moment for Obama...(even if he has a cold) it seemed he was saying "both parties are to blame" and while I might agree with him as a Lefty, here...I don't think he needed to say this in a Campaign Speech that he knew CNN would air. How does this help anything. As I said. He's got a cold...doesn't feel well and he tends to let his "personal feelings" run him...and he was sick and on "auto-pilot" but we sure don't need this when his poll numbers are down (even if the polls lie...American Sheeple believe the damned things) so...Obama needs to learn how to pace himself better even if this is a crucial week.

Nazi's thought the same thing about "concern" about Jews wearing yellow stars...and those "trains that went by in the night" ...but things were good...and they knew the "average German" would see what was going on with the "Jews" as just..."concern about people and issues" that were not important to them at that time...or their economy. (Remember the Bush/Pierce Family in that equation! (Kevin Philips: "American Dynasty" for reference, if you care to GOOGLE)

Just saying...

and you like several of your comrades before have failed the test of Godwin's law,
and thus lost the argument.

:shrug:

Let's listen to what he says..."Both Parties are at Fault." Maybe we should listen to what he says and DISCUSS...rather than "killing the messenger" of CNN that reported it ...and a DU'er who viewed it and posted it here on Democratic Underground's "Discussion Board."

Can we Discuss? Is this a New Turn in Obama's Campaign Tactics to go after McCain? What are the Pro's and Con's of this? Do you AGREE? Do you DISAGREE and WHY?

Can't we have a discussion? And, Obama does have a very bad cold that makes him cranky.....like it would any of us in the same circumstances. Yet...those words came out of his mouth. So, cold or not, what he says needs to be discussed because we are ALL DEMS HERE...!

A good one for dark times!

Listen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXuuIu8zDOs

taps foot..waiting....

I don't think anyone is saying dissent is not allowed, just that it isn't helpful for the enthusiasm that we need. Can't we just loose the pessimism? We haven't even had our convention yet for God's sake.

this? Surely you've read all the infringements on what our Constitution was founded on for FREEDOMS...Religion, Privacy, Rights against Search and Seizure." What are you thinking? :shrug:

that you're really not worth conversing with. This country has huge problems and I detest the Bush administration, but NO ONE in this country is fucking Nazi and how dare you suggest otherwise. You sound exactly like a Republican. The Nazi's took away rights and did despicable things, but that was the least of their heinous crimes. They exterminated people. Literally. Millions of them. Bush has not done that. He has done unforgivable things, but he has not ordered the extermination of a race.

You can say anything you like about our government in general, or the Bush administration specifically, and I'll probably agree because the Bush/Cheney crowd is undefendable. But to call someone a Nazi and equate their bad deeds or crimes with the extermination of six million people, is not only stupid, it's just factually wrong, and sad for all those people who were murdered. Go watch Schindler's List again to remind yourself what you're comparing someone to. If you've never seen it, I suggest you do.

Reply if you like, but don't expect another from me, because I find you line of attack repugnant.

He said that people now have a tendency to get cynical about politics and just say "A plague on both your houses. None of you can get things done!".

He was just voicing the opinion of hypothetical average joe. He never said both parties are responsible!

He's back to his original theme that only a DC Outsider can right the wrongs that afflict the majority of American people.

That's also a clue to his probable VP.

and those "Old Folks" who vote consistently...do watch CNN. With the Olympics off MSNBC...it's their only lifeline to what they "think" is a "fair and balanced" alternative to FOX... and if you are a Dem who can't stand FOX to see this on CNN...you believe that it's the truth...

Just because many can't stand to watch the media...and I have cut back to two hours a day...with some surfing when I have time doesn't mean most of America isn't exposed to this, and in the end that it doesn't make a difference in how folks vote. I have friends who still think everything besides FOX and Limbaugh must be "unbiased" because they listen and watch NPR/PBS/CNN/MSNBC's Jon Stewart and Colbert. They only use the "Internet" for WORK...when they come home they vege and switch channels and are unaware that these are all CORPORATE OWNED! They don't have time to spend here or on Liberal Blogs who dissect and hash over the LIES OF McCAIN and the REPUGS... They think they are getting an "unbiased truth."

:shrug:

He caught it on vacation with all the germy kids.

In two parts: 1, he comes back with a cold. 2, he comes back with weak-kneed, wussy shit like this!!!!!!

Geez, BO, lay the blame where it belongs: at the feet of the Republican Party that has been in charge for 8 years!! Paint McLame as Bush Term No. 3. How hard is THAT???

Bake

really is? :shrug:

Both parties in Washington are essentially corrupt from the "average American's" point of view.

He won't attack his opponents character. He told us in the primary to stop attacking Clinton "twice". Now you know how we felt and why we attacked.

We can attack as loud as we want. Obama will not want to be part of it though. He ran a great campaign in the primary, finishing with his completion speech coming full circle to where it all started, right in the Midwestern state of Iowa. Which the Obama campaign says it will focus on - the Midwest states for the win.

We need to start pumping out propaganda like the RW does. We should be making the case that the GOP is sole source of all wrong in America.

That was disturbing...and why I felt Obama was letting "truth out" because he's sick with a cold, and was caught "off-guard" ...but that he KNOWS...the dirt about our Dems...but American Sheep are just not still prepared to hear it. It's sickening but when you have "24/7 Corporate Propaganda" what can you expect. And, they are working against Obama...but he doesn't even realize he has to watch EVERYTHING..he says...because they will use it against him.

He's back to his earliest and strongest themes, running essentially as an outsider who promises to shake up the what and way of things in DC.

He's back to CHANGE vs experience.

edited to add: Thank god.

Americans who must have Stockholm's Syndrome that they would even think of BUSH 3 as an alternative!!!!

Why does Obama justify every attack with a compliment or "equals"? Come on.

I was just so saddened...he is so into lets get along and not play dirty that he's missing what they are doing to him completely...and in doing that, he comes across as completely "elitist" and outoftouch...he's got to STOP reminding people of McCain's good things (POW)...that was 40 years ago...he shouldn't even mention that at this point, he should be harping on the Bush-McCain disasters over and over and over again...

I unserstand why he was afraid of HIllary, even still - it ended up with her walking all over him...but I'm baffled why he's doing the same thing with McCain...stop it Obama...hit him with 20 years of corruption, you don't need to complement him...ugh!

Excellent post.

folks would get upset...since I didn't have the exact snippet to post..so they had to listen to my "paraphrases" ...but it was upsetting to me. While I understand the McCorporate Media goes out of it's way to find the worst they can about any Dem...even editing in a way to leave out the parts that explain what they say... It did seem that CNN showed this long clip in it's entirety....and it was sobering to watch and I hope he gets some good Chicken Soup and a long nap. It was not one of his better speaches...

It means he's decided not to fight any more, just give up and try to hold down the score. If he continues with this it will be downhill from here on in.

are moving him in directions he wasn't warned about when he "signed on."

I think between his cold and vacation respite he's finally grappling with the REAL PROBLEMS...that the "Two Parties" have much in common. My problem was what he said...can hurt us in the ELECTION....

I think he's TOO GOOD A PERSON...(spirtually and morally) to be President. He is beginning to see it...and that's sad...because the "Bar is so High for Dems" ...but "So Low for Repugs." :shrug: