Ed Rendell: "The coverage of Barack Obama was embarrasing"

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0808/Rendell_Obama_coverage_was_embarrassing.html


What the fuck is wrong with Rendell?

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stirring up shit and handing red meat to the McCain camp. uh-huh.

:crazy:

Why is someone posting about something that happened stirring up shit?

Sounds like a repuke stating "Iraq war protesters are the problem."

That is truly idiotic. Do you think they are official spokespeople for Obama?

Even though he had nothing to do with the poster?

Talk about misplaced anger...and an idiotic post.

Maybe you should be mad at the poster instead.

Makes a lot more sense.

your picture of Sen Obama, all I could think of was:

"BIG O, the superhero it's a real pleasure to be saved by!"

OK, I know I need the beating, but WTH, it just got me!

This time. :rofl:

Actually, I had just changed it.

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What do people here have to do with Obama?

He thought he was going to have a shot at VP.

He said last fall that he would have no chance at the VP no matter who won the primaries because he says what he thinks and no candidate would accept that in a VP.

That's nice. Now STFU and get behind the nominee.

- as

it's McCain, or Obama. Pick one to support and go for it. Hillary is out of it so grow up and play like a man and not a crybaby

Good to see you're still your Sickening DLC Tool self, Ed. :puke:

She probably said, "Ed you know we don't want him to really win! Don't go over the top! Just make it look like you want him to win!". And to think I believed him when he said he would work hard for Obama in PA. NOT!

Sad to see it was a front.

because I wouldn't put it past Rendell to fuck up 2008 to keep 2012 open for Hillary. That wing of the party is NOT willing to fight the fascist tide, at all - they fight US with more vigor than they would BushInc.

Coupled with Corzine's comments about "If Hillary wasnt the choice, Biden is a good choice", it seems the old DLC'ers have decided to have Hillary be tepidly supportive of Obama while their surrogates try to undermine him going into the convention.

not that we should have sympathy for them but they are having a hard time of it.

Sheesh....those assholes should be shunned.

so don't go pointing fingers.

Plus they have more than made up for it since keeping vague hopes of 2012 alive for you and your kind.

All about how she is a scrappy beer drinker and Obama is an effete bowler. Rendell is annoying.

NT!

I am not a blind cult follower. MSNBC was openly pro-Obama in the primaries. Rendell is correct.

I think that MSNBC was more positive towards Obama in the beginning, more positive towards Hillary towards the middle/end, particularly around the PA primaries when Rendell was always bellyaching and Matthews was always lavishing him about how he would be a simply AMAZING vice president. Opinions will vary.

NT!

I await your evidence that makes you disagree. I am not going to replay hundreds of hours of MSNBC coverage to give you "evidence". But thanks for playing.

MSNBC is the only news station that has been reasonably balanced and he accuses it of being the Obama channel? That would be RW garbage as memes go. I am so tired of these DLC jackasses.

Regards

if not, and only, say, 4 hours a day, yeh, you're right, they are soooooooooo pro Obama. ;(

The corporate media will bash Obama whenever he gets ahead in the polls and they will lift him up if he falls behind.

The corporate media will bash McCain if he ever gets ahead in the polls and they will lift him up whenever he is behind.

The corporate media doesn't give a shit about the nation, the truth, or the candidates -- all they care about is they MEGA-PROFIT from covering the election and they need a tight horserace to get people to tune in.

Peace out.

all the political ads. the idea that they want a horse race is a canard, designed to camouflage their obvious bias against all dem presidential candidates in recent memory. where were they in 1988? what horse race did they try to manufacture, once Dukakis fell behind? when did they EVER give Gore or Kerry a fair shot? and when did they EVER stop going after Clinton, from the bimbo eruptions in 1992, to Whitewater, soon after, to carrying water for the likes of Hyde, Barr, Gingrich, Scarborough, Burton, etal, resulting in the inquisition of 1998?

their coverage is ideologically driven

they've been nothing but corporate cheerleaders for the Right Wing ever since the Carter Administration

start with Liberty Under Siege

then, On Bended Knee

the, Fooling America

lots more in between, but Rich Media, Poor Democracy makes a nice foursome

do a little research....you'll be amazed at how in the pocket of the GOP the M$M has been for as long as most can remember

the Watergate era was simply an almost unavoidable aberration. if congress hadn't acted on the work of basically only TWO journalists (the rest of the media assiduously ignored the story until the hearings were called), Nixon would never have had to resign. after that, William Simon etal, marshalling HUGE right wing megaresources, made the castration of the fourth estate inevitable, resulting in what we have today, a sad caricature of what could have been

I lose it when people proclaim that the media is out for profit only. They are propaganda machines period...............

corporate tax cuts and deregulation of corporations period.

News don't bring in the kind of revenue that you would imagine.

There is no agenda for keeping Obama ahead. The only agenda from these facist corporate hoes, is a McCain win in order to continue owning whatever wherever and not paying any taxes.

In otherwords, you are complimenting them.

There is an agenda to keep the race tight and, then, if anything to get McCain elected because of all of the benefits corporations get from deregulation and other laws passed by Republicans to benefit corporations. No doubt.

The profit margin in keeping the race close isn't just the news shows -- it is the ad revenue from the BILLIONS of dollars that will be spent on advertising by the campaigns and 527s and other groups. So long as the race is tight, then all kinds of organizations will throw money to the TV channels to play ads to pull their guy back up in the polls.

News organizations keep the race close so that their parent companies get the ad revenue -- and, yes, then they'll be happier if they push McCain to the top.

On edit: splling

He needs to STFU.

I don't even know what to say.

Is it also because he didnt' get picked as VP?

Yeah, the coverage of Obama was embarrassing, right Ed? But the constant genuflecting to the war hero McCain isn't? Which party are you in?

during the primary, but it is over and everyone should be trying to unify the party. Because of this I will not post my fears about the convention, and just sit here with my fingers crossed, hoping that I am wrong.

to see an example of what EMBARRASSING really is. This kind of shit needs to stop.

I have to adjust my brain to the DLC planet and its reality

it's sometimes--shit i can't 'splain it:patriot: :patriot:

go for it mot&3$F^(*3&.

Maybe msnbc didn't like the Bosnian Sniper Fire LIES hillary kept spouting on the campaign trail..maybe they had a Big Problem with that dirty mark penn who the clintons just had to have to run their, oh so, inept campaign for missinevitable.

if you're not sure which side of the bread to spread the butter.

crotch fever.

Carville
Begela
Corzine
Rendell
Bill
Hillary
...

No pattern here.

all you have to say is FOX NEWS is the official network for the McCain campaign.

Guess I spoke too soon.

NT!

See post above if you are interested in the answer. Do You? Show us the secret card so we can be sure.

Hell, I even support Biden as VP - and I have issues with him, too.

There is this segment,..having a hard time coming to grips.

Governor Rendell's solution to the FL MI fiasco..."shoot Howard Dean."




He really did say that.

Never knew he advocated murder.

Ok I have a serious problem with that.

but agree that the card-carrying DLC-er Fast Eddie is still smarting. In fact, when he was on last night, he slid in a crap line like (paraphrase) "Here in Denver, no one is buying the Obama stuff. Ha ha. (big pause) We're all waiting for the Obama/Biden stuff."

:wtf:

He not only has diarrhea of the mouth, but he embraces it and brags about it. And this my governor. :eyes: These are the type who live by the credo of "It's better to ask forgiveness than permission". Never thought he would completely burn every frickin' bridge that was built to get him to where he is and he is dragging the useless Mixmaster Mike Nutjob with him. It's incredible. With "supporters" like this, who needs Republicans? Time for them to switch parties.

if anything the media, including MSNBC were encouraging a long drawn out battle for their own ratings. Just because Olberman wasn't afraid to tell the truth doesn't mean they as a whole were biased. All their coverage except the KO hour seemed to me to stoke the primary fires as long as they could. They even continue to do it to this day.

his statement. :shrug:

But then I opened this thread and found that he is instead rehashing old primary fights. THE REAL ENEMY IS MCCAIN PEOPLE! UNITE OR DIE!

on some morning news show today. Now, Biden is known as the third Senator from PA but Rendell's candidate vaca'd there with her family when she was little....:crazy: I think the 2012 bumper stickers have already been printed.

They can't believe their choice lost and they want to blame it on outside forces, simple as that.

both Hillary fans, and both back-stabbing mothers.

during the primaries--so why would he tone it down now? Blowhard.

Maybe he meant how Obama was attacked for Rev. Wright and was forced to denounce Farrakhan? :shrug:

don't say nothing at all.

that's the only thing that matters...even Terry Mac was saying great things about Obama and Biden today.

The others, hopefully, will come around in due time. As long as they come around by Nov., then I am cool.

because Rendell is the governor of a state that many people are focusing on. Generally the urban areas of this state have been able to produce a 200,000 - 400,000 "excess" of votes in favor of whatever statewide Democratic candidate needed to be elected - INCLUDING Rendell and most recently, Casey... and these same people have even kept the so-called "liberal" Senator Specter in for so long (and he personally comes to the cities to appeal for their votes) - and this type of turnout in the cities has consistently overturned what was once a Republican majority by registration in this state. One should not believe the hype of a Crack-addled News Network claiming the "difference" has always come down to Scranton's Lackawanna county. Philadelphia has consistently produced that excess - whether in 2004 or 2000, etc.

The one positive for PA however is that for the first time, thanks to Obama and Shrub's failed policies, Democrat party registrations now outnumber Republican party registrations, and by a good number.

And with this new, more "blue" landscape here in PA, Fast Eddie's continual underhanded and under-his-breath slurs undermine the party's unity message.

I stopped watching MSNBC after the KO 9 minute diatribe against Hillary over something Geraldine Ferraro had said. I will never watch that sorry excuse of a "news" network ever again.

Examples of partiality and sexism at that:

- Tweety Matthews' statement the morning after the NH primary that Hillary wouldn't be a senator nor a presidential candidate if Bill hadn't "messed around".

- Shuster's pimping remarks about Chelsea.

- Tucker Carlson stating that he crossed his legs whenever Hillary appeared on his screen because he feared for his manhood. Curiously, he had previously given an interview to Elle magazine where he said that she was his "secret fantasy".

And too many other comments to enumerate.

Governor Rendell is 100% correct.

but for all of that, you had Tweety going on about how Obama cannot connect with "regular people. you know..white folks", Tucker Carlson and Pat Buchanan going off about how Obama is the affirmative action candidate who went to a racist church , Shuster talking about how it is elitist of Barack Obama to order orange juice in a diner, Joe Scarborough going off about how Hillary Clinton is "his girlfriend, his muse". I don't think that you can say, as a whole, that MSNBC was biased during the whole primaries. Or, maybe just that they were biased against the Democratic candidates at different times would be more accurate. And that's just MSNBC .But again, opinions will vary.

when everyone and their brother was mocking him for his tingling leg comment. Also, the SNL skit finally brought to the forefront the media bias against Hillary. Though, the favoritism and the sexism exhibited by MSNBC crossed the line. Since I stopped watching after that pompous windbag KO's diatribe, I have no idea which way they continued to cover the primary.

Two people in the entire media. Big deal. Hillary's base in that primary was the DC and New York press corp who promoted her constantly from day one.
There are very few actual Democrats in the corporate press and now Rendell is going after them? Real freaking smart.

It became so evident that many Hillary supporters stopped watching it, not just me.

They were all manipulating our election, just as they are now, and will continue to do so.
Anyone who didn't see it, didn't want to see it.

Going after Obama for things that Wright said?

KO is one show. MSNBC came the closest to sane, or at least balance, of any of the major networks. The others were heavily pushing Clinton. While also Bashing her. Thats what they do. She is a Democrat. And just because they attack One Democrat, does not mean that they were in any way supporting another Democrat. It means they are attacking a Democrat.

Rendell is 100% up his own keister. Portraying any mainstream media group as supporting any Democratic candidate is just plain ignorant. There are a few individual shows that are more or less fair, but ya gotta keep in mind who signs the paychecks.

Oh thats right, they grew up.

The last thing we need right now is a high profile Democrat rehashing the primaries and lending legitimacy to the right wing argument that the media is liberal. Rendell's comments hurt our chances of beating John McCain, period.

Rendell's comments were a criticism of the media, not of Obama. Besides, he only stated the obvious, it's not as if anyone paying close attention hadn't noticed it.

It throws gasoline onto the primary fire at a time when we are trying to send a message that the party is unified. I realize that most people who were paying attention see this as old news and probably won't care one way or another. But many people weren't paying very close attention and they are largely the ones that we need to reach and they are going to likely be the ones that are swayed the most by the mainstream media.

This gives the media an excuse to write process stories about how the Democrats aren't unified. Every single Democrat that speaks to a reporter at any time this week should be saying only two things: Obama good, McCain bad. That's how you get the press to write the stories you want. You stay on message.

Rendell has had over two and a half months since Clinton dropped out to address MSNBC's media bias. He could've picked up the phone and called Tom Brokaw or anyone else at MSNBC to complain at any point and I'm sure they would've taken his call.

Rendell's comments at this time are incredibly selfish.

when it became painfully evident that they were using the airwaves to push one candidate and kneecap the other - I'll never watch ko again, or the channel for that matter.

the truth is the truth

lost his show (but not specifically because of anything he said about Clinton).

How's things over at Fox? Anyone over there apologize for the vile shit they spew toward Democrats on a nightly basis? Anyone suspended? Anyone lose their show?

Any Democrat bitching about MSNBC is barking up the wrong tree, IMHO.

edited for clarity

We all know that they like to stir s**t, but I expected MSNBC to at least be fair to all the Dems., not just to their favorite candidate. They crossed the line of objectivity and were insulting in a personal and also sexist manner. Therefore, they don't exist as far as I'm concerned.

especially since the McCain campaign has launched an offensive to label nbc/msnbc as the "liberal media" this week, though they've been on a whole, very generous to McCain in the general (and primary of course).

Note to Ed: get behind our ticket 100%, or sit down and STFU.

When is he up for reelection and is there a Democrat to challenge him?

Can ya tell I'm not from Pennsylvania?

there will be a large group of people in 2012 trying to sink Clinton in revenge.

If we lose this round, there is no way there is even the oportunity to sink any Democrat, because every last one of us will be starting from 50 feet beneath the waves.

Why in the world would he choose to make this statement the DAY BEFOFE OUR historic convention?

I am sick to death of these assholes raining our on parade. Yes Hillary's campaign was historic, but it wasn't the be all and end all of the world. It's not as if lots of women (or any?) have tried to run for President and been denied. They haven't tried. And yes, women do have a glass ceiling. And yes, although we've made progress, we still have work to do, but whining isn't really something that women are known for. And it certainly isn't something I want to be associated with. I believe women are better known for their strength and perseverance, and their ability to keep going in the face of adversity.

On the other hand, blacks have had a concrete ceiling. During my lifetime, they were not even allowed to dine in the same restaurants as whites, or use the same entrance to an establishment, or sit next to a white person a fucking bus. To this day, I can't even watch Mississippi Burning or any of the other "graphic" civil rights movies because of the intense shame I feel as a white person, that my race has treated another race so badly.

But now we have an African American man nominated by our own party to be the next President of the United States. That is an amazing and historic and, frankly, very emotional time. But instead of celebrating this incredible moment in history, we have to listen to Clinton supporters continue with the neverending whining.

Jesus Christ, Rendell, you fucking asshole. SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP. You're an embarrassment to mankind.

Poor Obama, he got such a free ride on that ABC "debate." :eyes:

Give me a break.

that Obama is the nominee. I'm embarrassed that he is my Governor. Never mind that Pat Buchanan is still pontificating for Hillary Clinton on MSNBC.

Now I know that the feelings of distrust that I automatically have when I see him are justified.

I thought this story would be how the media is covering Obama so negatively and playing McCains ads for free.


what the FUCK???!!!

good cripes, there's going to be trouble at the convention. I know it. This is a warm up. mark my words.
there's going to be trouble.

Why is he still doing this?

I think the Clintons supporters, at least some of them, will never work to help Obama get elected.

Idiots.

He is only interested in his own image and advancing himself, ever,on any issue. If it does not benefit Ed, Ed is not playing the game.

He is an old line political hack and a lying asshole.
He never hesitated to fuck over the state workers create a budget surplus or gain points at election time.
He loved to think he would be VP under Clinton, and I'm very happy that it never happened.

Fuck you, Ed.
mark

I was supporting Edwards early in the year so it was simple to evaluate the Hillary/Obama coverage as a neutral observer.

My mom was in the hospital and I'd tape a week or two of Hardball and Countdown then watch them one after another when I had a chance. It was beyond anything I'd ever seen, literally to the point I'd be wandering the house at 4 AM wondering why there wasn't widespread outrage. Matthews and particularly Olbermann would abuse Hillary with every facial expression and tone and snide reference. It was high comedy late in the primaries when Obama supporters tried to insist the late scrutiny remotely threatened what Hillary had faced.

It was blatant sexism, pure and simple. I'm a 40s guy but I can evaluate based on what did happen, not what I wanted to happen. In 20+ years in Nevada sportsbooks that's a necessity.

The proof will be the next female candidate for president. LOL. Be prepared for a long wait. The most laughable ignorance of all is the posters who blabber, "I can support a woman, just not THAT woman. " There won't be another woman, not a viable candidate. It took a remarkable series of circumstance plus an incredibly talented woman to nearly earn a nomination. The safest prediction imaginable is there won't be a credible female candidate for several cycles if not longer, not in our party. I'm talking about an actual contender, not a 10% also ran.

cheer it on! Keith Olbermann showed himself to be a farce. It was so painful to watch as a woman. And I wouldn't want my daughter to see it, or God, forbid, ever experience. We saw it play out - hour after hour, day after day.

And now to read the lemmings here insist it didn't happen. Do they realize how Freeper-like they sound? Of course, now they demand OBEDIENCE from Hillary. They want to smash her face in it, and make her EAT it. How DARE she?

:puke: