Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Florida delegation gets super seats, lousy hotel rooms....not much griping.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-25-08 11:07 PM
Original message
Florida delegation gets super seats, lousy hotel rooms....not much griping.
They also got all their full votes back instead of half votes. A few have had some things to say today about the hotel rooms being so far away, but most have not been critical.



Florida Democratic chairwoman Karen Thurman, left, and state Sen. Arthenia Joyner of Tampa register at the convention center in Denver. “It’s been a long journey,’’ Thurman said. The delegation will have front-row seats at the Pepsi Center.

Florida Democrats get up front seats

After being slapped by the national party and shunned by the presidential candidates, they and their 27 electoral votes are now the belles of the ball. National party leaders voted unanimously on Sunday to restore the 211-member Florida delegation's full voting authority, which had been stripped away entirely and later cut in half as punishment for Florida's violation of the official primary schedule. What's more, the Barack Obama campaign paid Florida the ultimate homage by giving the delegation front-row convention seats at the Pepsi Center.

Florida's delegation is split among three hotels featuring views of warehouses, Interstate 70, and an occasional shuttered strip joint. Amid the grumbling and confusion about having to find shuttles or pay for taxis to get anywhere near the convention spectacle, though, most Florida Democrats spoke with relief that their long primary nightmare is finally coming to a close.

"When you get spanked, you feel it,'' said former Hillsborough Democratic chairwoman Lynn Marvin. "But it's all good now."

The tough journey to this point started nearly 18 months ago when Democratic and Republican state lawmakers decided to move Florida's primary from March into January to give Florida more influence in the presidential nomination. The national party, trying to keep order and geographic and ethnic diversity, had decreed that only Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and South Carolina could hold primaries before Feb. 5.


Adam Smith then writes that most Florida Democrats have gotten over it.

Most Florida Democrats have long since moved on from the anger and anguish over Florida's officially meaningless primary. Republican John McCain needs Florida's 27 electoral votes to win the White House and with polls showing a neck-and-neck race, Obama has made up for lost time by showering Florida with love.


Well, Adam, who loves to divide....it is not the Florida Democratic leaders I am worried about that. They are pretty doggoned lucky to have it come out like it did.

I am concerned about the way that the situation is playing out on the national scene because of the manipulation of this state. Concerned about the groups that are still using it to hurt our party.

I was so glad to see Governor Howard Dean defend himself finally on this issue. It is about damn time, and when this election is over I hope he truly tells it like it really was and is. How one state, perhaps two, were used to try to win a presidential race.

Here is what he said in CQ Politics this week about the situation.

Dean stands by his decision. “Folks have been pushing around the Rules Committee and the DNC for a long time and we finally just said no, we’re not doing it anymore, and these are the consequences and we’re sticking to them,” he said. “And I think somebody had to do that.”


Hubby and I live with the consequences of the actions of our state's Democratic leaders. We are really not welcomed by local Democrats now because we called them on their behavior. They voted for and supported the early primary date, and then turned around and blamed Howard Dean.

I am glad they got good seats in Denver, probably at the expense of some states who followed the rules and made no waves.

I see some Florida Democrats trying to make peace now, and it is appreciated.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:29 AM
Response to Original message
1. I might have known Debbie Wasserman Schultz would have a say.
Hotel situation not lost on Florida delegates

Floor seats notwithstanding, the hotel situation is not lost on the delegates.

“It doesn't really get more punishing than three hotels by the railroad tracks,” quipped Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a delegate and member of Congress representing parts of Broward and Dade counties.


Hush, Debbie.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:44 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Debbie was great tonight with Matthews. A long-time Biden fan, sounding pro-ticket
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:46 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. I hope she keeps it up. She hurt our state a lot during the primaries.
If she is trying to make amends, I am all for it.

Too late for hubby and me and local Democrats, but maybe not too late for others.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:12 AM
Response to Reply #2
8. I hope that means she'll be campaigning in FL for the next 70 days
for the Obama/Biden ticket. It's one thing to say you support a ticket and another to actually support it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:21 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. Remember when she said worrying about rules was "unproductive"?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:36 AM
Response to Reply #9
10. I just remember 2000 and 2004 when 'supporters' of our nominee
had to go on book tours and run for office themselves and didn't have a problem denouncing our nominee.....So smiling at the camera and saying 'I support the Obama/Biden ticket' isn't necessarily supporting the Obama/Biden ticket.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:57 AM
Response to Original message
4. That article about Howard is a good read.
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 12:58 AM by votesomemore
What do you think is the reason that the model Dean describes (in the article) and has created, failed in Florida? Is there any ray of hope?

Is it because some people just want to be contentious? Or is there infiltration?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:02 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. In Florida, the Democrats are different.
Dems and Republicans have switched sides so much they have lost their identity.

The DLC efforts took hold here early on, and they took firm hold. Florida Blue Dog Dems worked to elect Jeb Bush as governor

One of the local Democrats was overheard at the 2002 Dem convention saying that if the party here resisted the DLC methods, he would cram down their throats or something to that effect. I have it posted somewhere.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:14 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. That sounds dyslexic.
The people who are leading the anti-campaign are strange agents. Idealism has always been a bigger draw for me rather than personality cultism. I don't get it. I saw one on tv, and, she's just a Republican now. How can someone work and vote for McShambles and still call themselves Democrat? Dyslexic.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:56 AM
Response to Reply #6
7. Many have no identity...take no stances.
They really are just like Republicans because the two parties are interchangeable here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:40 AM
Response to Reply #5
11. I voted for McBride but he was incredibly weak! that was lost from the beginning
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 11:41 AM by demo dutch
Florida is inconsistent on everything, sports, politics etc, it's the nature of the beast.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:45 AM
Response to Reply #11
12. We supported McBride...worked hard with his campaign here. BUT
then we realized they did not really care if they won. We worked with the county campaign person who was a moderate Republican, and he was getting alarmed near the end.

I called the office to tell them some things we knew were happening..they did not even seem to care.

As I look back, I think Janet Reno would have won. I wonder if his run was meant to get wife Alex Sink's name more public for her CFO run and eventual run for governor?

I think she is doing a good job as CFO, but I do look back and wonder.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #12
13. Of course Reno could have won, but everyone worried about the Elian effect!
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 12:00 PM by demo dutch
but as a moderate she still would have mobilized and excited the base at least!
All in all it shows you how "weak" & poorly run the Florida Democratic party is.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon May 06th 2024, 08:49 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC