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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:49 AM
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Warner's keynote speech to carry a bipartisan tone even if rabid Democrats don't like it
Warner's bipartisan tone could rankle Democrats

Warner's keynote speech to carry a bipartisan tone even if rabid Democrats don't like it

BOB LEWIS
AP News

Aug 26, 2008 08:45 EST


Former Gov. Mark Warner plans to offer a lesson in Virginia-style bipartisanship to thousands of hardcore Democrats in his convention keynote speech Tuesday night.

"There may be parts of the speech that aren't going to get a lot of applause," Warner said Monday, "but I've got to say what I believe will get our country back on the right path."

Some Democrats were already complaining, saying that Warner's job is to put a dent in Republican John McCain's image.

"This isn't the Richmond Chamber of Commerce," said Democratic consultant Paul Begala.

For Mark Warner, who is seeking the Senate seat of retiring Republican John Warner, a red-meat speech that would bring the party's most passionate warriors to their feet in Denver would undermine a carefully cultivated image at home that has given him a strong lead in statewide polls and a lopsided fundraising advantage.

Nothing about the presidential campaign indicates that either side is willing to speak kindly of the other or its nominee. Rhetoric and advertising from both Democrat Barack Obama and McCain turned caustic early.

Warner's election as governor in 2001 revived a moribund Democratic Party in a state where Republicans controlled every statewide office or elected institution of government. For Warner to work with a General Assembly that was overwhelmingly Republican when he took office, bipartisanship was not optional.

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2008/08/warners_bipartisan_tone_could.php
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redstate_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:50 AM
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1. Damnit! I wanna see blood on the floor!
Warner better come with it! As Hillary once said, "Enough of the nice speeches and big rallies!" :evilgrin:
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:50 AM
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2. Any talk of bipartisanship rankles me.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:56 AM
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3. Why? You get more bees with honey. So they say. nt
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:52 PM
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21. You're right. I won't complain if that's a tactic the campaign uses.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 10:59 AM
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4. If Warner's speech gets more people in Virginia to vote
for Obama, then that's a good thing. Virginia could be the state that determines the election.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:51 PM
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20. Ah, you're right.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:02 AM
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5. As a bona fide rabid Democrat
I am not at all happy. Do you expect to see any conciliatory speeches at the Repub convention? Not on your life. Why are we always kissing elephant ass?:mad:
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:16 AM
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14. Well it is a fine line
No one wants to see a repeat of something like Pat Buchanan's 92 speech, for example, on either side.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:04 AM
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6. Was Joe Lieberman unavailable? n/t
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:08 AM
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7. I'm confused.
I thought Obama stood for bridging partisan divisiveness by emphasizing common values.

Did we somehow stop liking that message, or are we just ignoring it?

There was a time when this WAS McCain's message as well. Until McCain the maverick disappeared and McCain the Bush Hugger hit the campaign trail.

Jim Leach from the Republican Party spoke on Monday. I guess people selectively ignored him too.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:10 AM
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8. you're correct. Some DUers search the internet 24/7 looking for things to complain about
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:12 AM
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9. I see nothing wrong with this, and applauded Leach's appearance, too.
I'm a Democrat, doesn't mean I'm dense. The rethugs who will vote for Obama could make the difference. I want their votes!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:13 AM
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11. We're not ignoring it... the M$M just keeps pretending otherwise to stir shit up.
People are frighteningly easy to manipulate.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:25 AM
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16. If I had known they had a Repub speaking
I probably would have ignored him, if I am honest about it. Fortunately I didn't have to decide- fell asleep right after Ted Kennedy and will have to watch Michelle today on the web site.

I never had a problem with partisan divisiveness either. It's one of the areas in which Obama and I part ways. It would be OK if the repukes would meet half way or be even a tiny bit honorable but they don't and they ain't.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:13 AM
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10. This is a big mistake
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 11:14 AM by leftynyc
The convention is for two things - introduce and and nominate a candidate and to kick the shit out of our opposition. I can appreciate that he's running in a red state and cannot appear too partisan but then he shouldn't have gotten keynote. It's going to be up to Hillary to spill some blood tonight against mccain - I certainly haven't seen it anywhere else. Conventions are not for bipartisan nonsense.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:15 AM
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13. winning virginia is a key to winning the election
You do realize that of course.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:58 AM
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17. Of course I do
I just think this convention has been very short of the kind of red meat that the base is looking for (I know it has been for me). I don't care who spills puke blood - I'm ready for this party to take on mccain and party and kick the shit out of them.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:06 PM
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19. Does the base need that much inspiration to decide to vote for Obama?
Can the base not discern the difference between Obama and McCain?

Warner's appearance is aimed at the base. Its aimed at that portion of the audience tuning in that is less progressive, more moderate, more likely to be on the fence than the base.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:22 AM
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15. Funny, but I remember the keynote speaker from 4 years ago who
was all about unity in its many forms. He did okay.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:59 AM
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18. Turned out well for Sen Obama
On that we agree. How did the party do in 2004? How did that bi-partisan speech get received? With a kick in the teeth.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:14 AM
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12. Well that's hardly newsworthy since Obama's entire campaign has been about uniting AMERICANS
not just Dems.

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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 12:53 PM
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22. A lot of Americans don't care about the country being on the right path
they just want to fuck somebody up.
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