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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:10 PM
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Lets look ahead to 2016 for a moment. Who is on your ticket?
Assuming our guys win the next open shot is 2016.

who is going to run?

Figure Biden will not run.

Warner is a given to run, But Hillary probably is not. Spitzer Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda, but not gonna happen.

Eight years is an awful long time but who do you see emerging among people under 60?


Kaine will not have a platform to run from because he can run for reelection.

Bayh...? Webb? Sebelius?


But who might emerge?

My bet is a ticket of Warner-Villaraigosa.

But if you have to ask who the heck is that... Your Crystal Ball is too small to answer the question to begin with,

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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:12 PM
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1. OK




WHITEHOUSE/FEINGOLD 2016
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:14 PM
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3. Whitehouse in the White House! Hell Yeah!
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:16 PM
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5. Freezng out the Governors for another eight years?
RI and Wisconsin? Really?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:49 PM
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21. Delaware.....
nuff said

:woohoo:
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 02:52 PM
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31. I was surprised when Feingold didn't run this year
I heard some speculation that he didn't want his private life combed through because of his divorce.
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:13 PM
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2. Michelle Obama 2016
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:21 PM
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10. Oh cmon, even Hillary knew that she had to get elected to something first.
Now if Michele were to run for Governor of Illinois it would be a very smart move if she has those ambitions,

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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 02:29 PM
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26. I don't think Michelle has the slightest intention of ever running for
anything.

Who could have predicted Barack Obama as the 2008 nominee back in 2000? It will probably be someone who is little known or unknown to us now.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:15 PM
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4. If Obama makes serious attempts at overhauling the election system
I might be able to vote for a Green or a Socialist without "spoiling" the Dems chances. That would be so nice. Otherwise, as always I am a fan of Kucinich, Boxer, and Feingold. And Sanders is great too.

As to who will actually be on the ticket... really not sure. So much can happen between now and then. So many people might come to the forefront of national politics who are barely on the radar right now.

:hi:
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:16 PM
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6. Perky &
a candidate to be named later. :rofl:
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:18 PM
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8. umm.... if nominated I will not run...if elected....
everyone better pack their suitcases.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:47 PM
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18. LOL !
:thumbsup:
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:17 PM
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7. Hillary Rodham Clinton n/t
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Arnold Judas Rimmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:19 PM
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9. Not even going to guess what will happen 8 years from now.
Let's put it this way....

Did you know who Barack Obama was in 2000?

Or who Bill Clinton was in 1984?

It's quite possible that the person who becomes the 45th President of the United States is someone you have never heard of. Not yet anyway. :)
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:23 PM
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11. Can you explain your comment regarding Kaine and a platform?
I don't understand it.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:29 PM
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14. Virgian does not let Governors run for reeelection
He can not run for either Senate seat, so his only office option is the House.

Not exactly the best platform to ascend in eight years.

Now he could go there for four years (oh take a role in an Obama Administration) and run for governor again....and he could win, but it seems doubtgul that he would run if Warner jumps in.

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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:33 PM
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15. He will undoubtedly end up in the Obama administration.
There is virtually no doubt of that. He's Obama's closest friend in politics.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised in the least to see Biden transition from VP to the Sec of State role after Obama's first term (that job is tailor-made for Joe, after all). That would make available the second-term VP slot for an Obama successor.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:47 PM
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17. Changing veeps is tricky
SUre Joe is ideally suited. The probleme is that by picking an heir apparent. you piss off alot of Senators who might have aspirations and they could reak havoc with presidential initiative as retribution.


If a Veep is there for eight years it is a different matter. Gore had competition and CLinto kept hismouth shut during the primary. Just as W did this time. But changing the VEEP for the second term is an inside the beltway landmine. There really is no modern precedent. since FDR anyway.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:26 PM
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12. Someone we haven't heard of yet
is my bet.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:29 PM
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13. Karl Marx's corpse and the remnants of Jesus
Jesus' found body parts as VP would balance out the ticket by bringing in the fundies and bringing in his war experience (since his religion is responsible for a good deal of war). Since both would agree on a lot of economical issues, I think they would work together well. The anthropologists and archeologists demographic would go nuts over the ticket, as would the atheists and socialists. Since Jesus was black, you would grab a lot African Americans, and Marx would bring in the Prussian/Germanic Nascar Dad voting block. The only negatives is that they wouldn't stump well and may smell a bit bad.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:33 PM
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16. Caroline Kennedy/Mark Warner 2016
Caroline Kennedy will be the first female US President in history. She will be easuly elected President in 2016 with the support of President Obama. She will defeat the ticket of Jeb Bush and Bobby Jindal.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:48 PM
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19. She will need to run for something first,
Maybe she takes Teddy's seat?
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:13 PM
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33. Hillary will go to SCOTUS or Secretary of State
and Sweet Caroline gets appointed to US Senate from NY in 2009.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 01:48 PM
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20. A.B.C.
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monomach Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 02:19 PM
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22. Mark Warner / Lisa Madigan nt
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 02:22 PM
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23. Some obscure state treasurer or first term congresscritter
If someone asked this question ten years ago, do you think that an unknown Chicago lawyer would have made the list? A guy who couldn't score a floor pass to the 2000 convention?
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 02:23 PM
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24. Schweitzer and Sebelius n/t
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chiefofclarinet Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 12:01 AM
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39. Agreed
I think these two have good credentials, and would make a smart team.

Of course, before we can worry about these two governors from Western red states, we need to worry about the two senators from Eastern (IL is kinda Eastern...) blue states.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 02:23 PM
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25. 2016? What's that?
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 02:23 PM by TornadoTN
Lets get past 2008 first, I've got enough ulcers as it is watching and working in this one!

(Warner, Schweitzer, Sebelius would be my picks)
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 02:30 PM
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27. Nobody. World ends in 2012, dude
.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 02:30 PM
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28. Let's not. Let's get Obama elected.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 02:32 PM
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29. way too early to know.
Who knows who will be the "stars" of the Democratic party in 2016. Obama was unknown a few years ago. Let's just get through 2008 first :)
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 02:34 PM
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30. McCaskill/Warner
Sebelius is too straight-laced, Claire is more open and relaxed. She has some state government experience too. We're going to have to have a woman nominee in 2012 in order to respect the women who supported Hillary.
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:12 PM
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32. Ralph Nader? n/t
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:49 PM
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34. yeah and Harold Stassen will be his running mate.
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:35 PM
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36. Yike
I'm old enough to get that joke.

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dtotire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 03:55 PM
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35. Mark Warner n/t
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 11:36 PM
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37. Schweitzer/Anyone nt
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 12:00 AM
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38. It would be difficult to tell this far out...
Keep in mind that just two years ago, we expected the Democratic race to be primarily between Hillary and Mark Warner and Kerry, Feingold, Bayh and Wes Clark were all expected to run too. Very few expected Obama to run in 2008.

That being said, I would look at newly-elected senators and governors from the 2006 class and I'd look at who gets elected governor and senator in 2008 -- then at who gets reelected AND who gets elected to the governorships in 2010, especially the big-state ones.

From the '06 class:

In the Senate, I could see Sheldon Whitehouse (RI), Amy Klobuchar (MN), and possibly Jim Webb (VA), Jon Tester (MT) and Sherrod Brown (OH) (although I see Brown as more of an insurgent).

Among the governorships, maybe Deval Patrick (MA) or David Paterson (NY), should the latter win election in his own right in NY. However, I'm skeptical the Democrats would nominate another black politician to succeed Obama, bad as that sounds. Chet Culver of Iowa is a possibility too.

From the '08 class:

If they can get elected to the Senate, I could see Mark Warner (VA), Mark Begich (AK), Mark Udall (CO), Kay Hagan (NC), and Tom Allen (ME) are all possibilities.

If Bev Perdue wins the NC governor's race, she might also be a good prospect for president in 2016.

And from the '10 class:

The Senate is a less likely springboard, as those elected to their first terms in 2010 would only be finish one term by 2016, but Edwards made a credible run in '04 and of course we've nominated Obama - an extraordinary candidate to be sure, but still a precedent. NH's governor, John Lynch, could be very formidable, though given his small state, he may need to try and unseat Judd Gregg in the Senate in 2010.

Take a look in 2010 at the big states and who wins their governorships. If they elect Democrats, those will be likely candidates. Gavin Newsom or Antonio Villaraigosa in California could run (though Jerry Brown -- who's pondering a comeback -- wouldn't run). If a Democrat wins the Michigan governor's race and wins reelection in 2014, they'll be considered too. In Illinois, if Attorney General Lisa Madigan gets elected governor, she'll be formidable.
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