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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:17 PM
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David Axlerod: Hillary speech is great, polls are BS, race will be close
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 06:23 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
David Axlerod (As reported on MSNBC):

1) Seen Hillary speech, says it's great

2) Calls the polls "bullshit" (or some other word you can't say on TV... bullshit seems likeliest.)

3) Say the Obama campaign's internal polling shows the race will be close, but that the demographic trends they're depending on to put Obama over the top are still in place.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:20 PM
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1. I think Obama will pick up in the polls once the school year gets underway
The youth demographic has been on summer break for the past months and unlike those of us around here, probably weren't paying much attention to the race since they left campus in May. Once they get back on campus and start thinking about the race again, there might be a pickup for Obama. Also, having them concentrated on campus makes outreach and volunteer organization that much easier which could help catalyze us going forward.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:21 PM
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2. And when asked why Obama gave two nights to the Clintons, he said you'll find out
tonight! :D
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:21 PM
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3. Good to hear him say that about the Gallup - I've never trusted it.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:28 PM
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8. The irony is that all public polling seems to match the internal polling...
Anyone looking at the accumulated public polling would reach exactly the same conclusion as Axlerod is offering.

The race will be close, and Obama has the advantage thanks to some persistent demographic factors. That's what all the polls show!

All campaign types say that all public polling is bullshit as a matter of course, no matter where the polls are. (After advertising, polling is the biggest consulting cost. Campaign types have a vested interest in saying public polling is bullshit.)
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:22 PM
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4. OMG!!!!!11! DAVID AXLEROD IS A PUMA!!!!11!! n/t
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:24 PM
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6. He is a TRAITOR
who supports McCain.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:24 PM
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7. LOLOL
Thanks for the best laugh I've had all day.

:toast:
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:44 PM
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14. HAHAHA
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GrizzlyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:22 PM
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5. They did say Mark Penn was helping Bill with his speech
Which is a little bit of a downer.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:33 PM
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11. Mark Penn's fall from grace has been a trainwreck
From chief strategist of the frontrunner to being hated by all Democrats in just a couple of months. :rofl:
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:29 PM
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9. The M$M polls are saying "the race is close" too. I don't understand
what Aslerod means. Can anyone explain this to me?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:40 PM
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13. political campaign professionals always describe public polls as bull shit
Edited on Tue Aug-26-08 06:41 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
1) If you praise them one day you might be stuck with them another day when you don't like the results

2) Internal polling is one of the big campaign expenses, so many political professionals have a vested interest in dissing public polls.

3) Everyone likes to maintain the mystique of their 'secret' numbers.

4) It's a habit because public polling in state and local races really is inferior to campaign polling, and most campaign work is state and local.


But all campaigns incorporate public polling into their overall conception of things along with their own commissioned polling. All polls have what value they have which should not be over-stated or dismissed entirely.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:31 PM
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10. I would give my right nut (if I had one) to see the internal spread sheets
they had one during the primary and it was astonishingly accurate. I have trust they have the same thing this time around.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-08 06:33 PM
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12. they had multiple spread sheets, not just one.
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