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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:43 AM
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Barack Obama just won Pennsylvania, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, and Colorado
Sarah Palin does nothing to help McCain electorally. Obama just guaranteed himself victory in Colorado, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Michigan, and Minnesota. Romney, Ridge, and Pawlenty were the only VP picks that could threaten Obama electorally.

And if you don't believe me, just see how excited the Obama campaign is over Palin! Plouffe was almost daring McCain to pick her. The Obama campaign is enthusiastic over McCain just handing the election to Obama.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:43 AM
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1. I wonder if he still has a chance in Alaska
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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:47 AM
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6. Probably not, but Plouffe is willing to sacrifice Alaska for bigger prizes
Romney would've challenged Obama in the west and Michigan...no doubt about it. And Pawlenty would've made Minnesota VERY tough for Obama and virtually guarantee a Norm Coleman victory in the Senate race. Ridge would've given Plouffe nightmares about Pennsylvania. With Palin, there's a big sigh of relief from Chicago.

If someone can tell me how Obama loses this thing electorally, I'd love to hear. He's gonna hold the Kerry states, almost a lock now, and will pick up some more. Palin doesn't do shit to help McCain win.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:53 AM
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10. it might be as move to save Ted Stevens
:shrug:
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:45 AM
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2. And then we're going to go to Washington DC to take back the White House--
HYYYYAAAHHH!
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:46 AM
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3. It is a sign of GOP plan B
There chances are nil under astute electoral logic. They will go into full gimmick mode, as risky as that is, because that is all they have. Even the MSM cannot keep them from crashing and burning forever for all the required number of tricks in the hands of a fumbling second rate magician.
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:47 AM
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5. "B" as in hitting rock Bottom. n/t
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:46 AM
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4. The McCain campaign will go down in history as the biggest electoral disaster for the GOP since ....
... Herbert Hoover lost to FDR during the Great Depression.
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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:52 AM
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9. You're right...I don't see how Obama can lose the Electoral College
I really don't see Obama losing a single Kerry state. Before this week, I would never have said that.

The truth is, Ridge would've made PA though, and Romney would've hurt us in MI and in the western states.

I feel much more comfortable today about Obama's chances of winning. I don't see Palin threatening Obama in a single blue state.
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:42 AM
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25. Actually, they had one candidate who lost a little worse than Hoover.
That was the first time they nominated a Senator from Arizona, so they're trying it again.
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Dr. Death Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:50 AM
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7. I see it the same way
And just said in another thread that we will win this 332 to 217 electoral votes.

I gave Obama all the states you mentioned, plus my own state of North Carolina, because the pukes don't even realize the grass roots tide that's going to hit them here on Nov. 4th.
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oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:50 AM
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8. That is the only benefit the ticket is staunchly pro-life now. BUT she
will rally the pro-gun, pro-life freaks
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:54 AM
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11. Biden sealed the deal for Pennsylvania - that's his home state
You know, when they list President/VPs they list the state where they are born, not where they served throughout their life. So in the History books, Biden will always be listed as being from Scranton Pennsylvania. He will deliver!
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:57 AM
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15. Sarah Palin was born in Idaho.
One of the two reddest states in the Union.
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darius15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:55 AM
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12. I disagree
It will all depend on how female Hillary supporters in key states like Ohio, Michigan, Florida, and Pennsylvania react. They can either listen to Hillary's brilliant speech and vote for Obama, or they can vote McCain because he has a woman on the ticket.

Honestly, I don't know what they will do. But if they flock to McCain, then Obama's chance in Ohio and Florida is significantly smaller.

But let's wait until both conventions are done to see what the voters in all these states think.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:58 AM
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16. You're selling Hillary supporters short.
Hillary is pro-choice. Palin is a staunch pro-lifer. That is a HUGH difference. Just becaues she's a woman doesn't mean she gets Hillary supporters' vote.
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darius15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:01 AM
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17. Not ALL Hillary supporters
most (about 75%) have joined the Obama team. But there's that other 25% I'm talking about. Not just PUMAs, because only about 1 or 2 percent of Hillary supporters are that crazy, but many are undecided between Obama and McCain and having a woman on the ticket could potentially swing them. I hope they are smarter than that.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:05 AM
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20. Do you really think that 25% of Hillary's female supporters
supported her ONLY because she's a woman? Do you really think they can't see the enormous differences between Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin? Do you really think that 25% of Hillary Clinton's female supporters can be swayed by obvious pandering?
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:56 AM
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13. I don't think Minnesota was going to be a problem for Obama.
Even if McCain had picked Pawlenty.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 10:57 AM
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14. she is a sacrificial lamb.
could get her a senate seat tho.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:03 AM
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18. Minnesota will be easy for Obama now. With no Polenta on the ticket, we've got no reason
to vote for McPageant.
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:04 AM
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19. I don't know if any option would've helped him electorally
Edited on Fri Aug-29-08 11:09 AM by BreatheOnMe
Romney wouldn't have switched Michigan for McCain. I don't know much about Pawlenty and Ridge or about their popularity in their home states. It seems, from what I've heard on this board, that Pawlenty isn't too popular in Minnesota. Ridge has some Bush connections which may have hurt him. For McCain there weren't any great VP picks.
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BluegrassDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:58 AM
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26. Romey, Ridge, and Pawlenty would've challenged Team Obama electorally
not saying they'd win those states, but Obama would've had to invest a lot of time and money to ensure they stayed blue. Now with Palin, Obama can spend more time in places like North Carolina, Indiana, and Missouri.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:07 AM
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21. Let's talk that up in those states.
They chose a kooky governor who wants to teach creationism alongside evolution in science class !!
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:29 AM
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24. This is especially jarring--for someone who's supposed to be a maverick
like her new boss, Sarah Palin's remarkably stupid on this issue.
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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:26 AM
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22. Bumping Obama to replace Palin...
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-29-08 11:27 AM
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23. How do you figure?
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