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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:21 PM
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The SPY story is what Oliphant meant..not the Swiftboat story
This story is typically getting released on a Friday as the WH ass kissing press always waits until Friday afternoon to release the most damning stuff..you can bet it has been around all week..this is typical of the bad news cycle...on a Friday when no one is paying attention.

Remember, like them and their ties or not, Kerry has assembled one of the best intelligence teams in a Dem campaign in recent history....you can expect Beers et al on TV over the next few days knocking the WIND out of the White House's sails right on time for their convention over THEIR appointments, THEIR security lapses, and THEIR spies in the Pentagon.


I believe THIS was the story Oliphant was referencing NOT the O'Neill was in Cambodia story.
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:28 PM
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1. We can only hope...
And just MAYBE, Fitzgerald's grand jury will return indictments in the Pentagon? Feith? Wolfie? Why settle for just Libby now?
Btw, it IS Fitzgerald's style to turn a "lower" for an "upper" (as is most Feds).

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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:34 PM
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2. you betcha ... WH tries to get it out on "garbage day" (friday) BUT
Larry Johnson (former CIA anti-terrorism) just said in a phone call to the MSNBC Olberman show (some other woman is subbing for Keith-ugh!) that this spy (mole) investigation has been going on for several months and is expected to be tied to sharing our Iran plans with Israel, as well as investigating whether Israel may be the responsible forger on that infamous Niger letter claim about yellow cake, and of course, doing the 360 degree tour back to the Plame investigation too ...

If any/all of this verified it will be HUGE against the busheviks -- no wonder, mr perfect-war-president hisself TODAY actually talked about his possible "miscalculations" about Iraq occupation. I smell inoculation attempt here, but it looks like nepalm in the morning to me!
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:36 PM
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3. I don't think so
Oliphant was referring to something the Kerry campaign was going to do. I think he was referring to the trip to Crawford with the letter.

This is 1000x bigger than that and has nothing to do with Kerry. This is the CIA/FBI. The Kerry camp might not have even known about this.
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:39 PM
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4. This is CIA/FBI getting revenge on the neocons.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:41 PM
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5. That's exactly what I think, too.
The timing of this is no coincidence.

Bush scapegoated the CIA for bad intel for the war and outed one of their own.

This investigation has been going on for months and they go public with it now? Right before the RNC?

This is CIA payback time.

BUh-bye Shrub!
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:57 PM
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8. Two words...RAND BEERS
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 08:08 PM
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11. Or maybe 2 more? RICHARD PERLE....
On the board of the Jerusalem Post? In the Pentagon as an advisor?

Yes, I know your point re Beers, just wanted to throw out another name for your "indictment pleasure"...

:-)
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:43 PM
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6. Didn't Think of the Friday Dump Angle.
This story really undermines Bush. Add this to his trust of Chalabi and the WMD fiasco, and we have a pretty sordid picture of this Administration's handle of protecting the American people.

And of course, you are right on the Friday News Dump which I hadn't thought of. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 07:45 PM
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7. Man...you think so much like me sometimes...
it's almost scary. You're me but with writing skills. ;)))))
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 08:02 PM
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9. The Spin Zone - again
Already the premise has been put forth by some "experts" that it was the Democrats who leaked this story right before the Repubs convention. Yeah, right.

FBI is furious, supposed spy has links to Wolfowitz. This could get really fun!!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 08:04 PM
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10. OMG, you are totally right!!!
OMG!!!! I'm serious hyperventilation over this!!
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 08:18 PM
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12. You know - I don't think this was a Friday news dump
No other nightly news program had this story except CBS. They got the scoop from someone. Which network is perceived as the least friendly to the administration? Humm?? - CBS.

CBS ran with it because they had it and wanted to beat everyone to it.

Not so sure about CIA revenge either since this is an FBI job. But I suppose the CIA could be involved. And for sure someone at the CIA could have given CBS the scoop.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 08:36 PM
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13. Friday news dump or no, this story is HUUGE. It's no shrubya pay stubs,
that's for sure. This story isn't fading out by Monday, or next week.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 09:10 PM
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16. Oh no
This story is NOT going to be neutralized by a Friday news dump. I think we'll be hearing about this for some time.
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wolfgirl Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 08:39 PM
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14. Maybe this
came out because of the Executive Orders Bush is putting out that deal with the changes with the our intelligence community. Porter Goss is a GOP/neocon operative and Bush is going to make him the
Czar over our intelligence community. Just maybe the FBI & CIA
understand they have got to do something now to stop anymore damage Bush & Co. are doing.

Just a thought....:think:
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abburdlen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 08:47 PM
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15. But Goss hasn't been confirmed by congress yet
And with a story like this I doubt congress will be too willing to go through a quick confirmation hearing (ie before November)
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wolfgirl Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-27-04 09:22 PM
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17. Who ever Bush puts in
temporary or otherwise, my Congressfolks (and a lot of others) will be hearing from me about what I think they should be doing about all this!
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