It is damning to Bushco (Israeli spy) regardless of whether the forged

Uranium documents were created by the Israeli spy or by an "American."

They stacked the Pentagon deck with rabidly pro Israel PNAC ideologues like Wolfowitz and Feith and such a result was predictable. They have sold out U.S. security for this agenda.

Our foreign and war policy has apparently come from Israel and been informed by the likes of Chalabi and guys named Curveball. It all reads like a bad grade B version of Casablanca.

How much more corrupt can this administration get?

AIPAC is an incredibly powerful Washington lobby group.

Mole may have passed Iran and possibly even Iraq war policy drafts from the Pentagon to AIPAC.

AIPAC, as mentioned, a powerful, fiercely RW, pro-Israel lobby group, calls up their friends in the Pentagon, maybe even higher than that, and "attempts" to influence US Middle East policy.

We don't even take foreign policy advice from the bleeding UN anymore, but we do from Sahron and friends.

Why do they hate us?

Now this is starting to make sense.

Do you see Israel as the equivalent of Nazi spies? Russian spies during the Cold War? Do you?

Because then it's damning.

It's sure as hell damning around here. (I'm pretty sure someone here was implying that the Israelis and not the Arabs did 9/11, but perhaps I was mistaken?)

But if you see Israel as a long time ally, like, say, the French were, then you get pissed off, irritated, but nobody is actually damned. Hopefully, someone is fired. Maybe someone, like Pollard, goes to jail. But the people who let it happen are not damned. Sorry. Security breach? You betcha. Damning? No. Just no.

Israel isn't an enemy, but neither are the Islamic nations in the Mideast, including Palestine.

The sooner we realize that, the better off we will all be.

then Israel IS OUR ENEMY. PERIOD! And that is very damning.

Then what are they

The neocons sold us down the river to prop up the corrupt and abusive Sharon government of Israel, a foreign power. That's treason. Someone sure as hell better pay.

one so manipulative as Israel, to run roughshod over U.S. foreign and military policy, to be insanely irresponsible, careless.

Now clearly with respect to the Iraq invasion, Bush "wanted" the war also, so being manipulated into it wasn't much of a stretch at all.

I recognize that Israel has been our ally. But when we fight a ruinous war by proxy, one that benefits the perceived security needs of the ally, but is ruinous to us, then I would think we need to reconsider the nature of the alliance.

think who ever this "mole" is is actually a "mole". I think it is more Bush & Co are now caught up in a situation where they can't come forward and defend whoever this person is 'cause it would expose the fact that the person wasn't really a mole but a confidante and player in Bush's game.

If there was an investigation, I bet it wasn't something that Bush & Co knew about and certainly weren't cooperating with, or maybe they just found out about it and have blown the whistle as a form of damage control to stop the investigators from finding out too much.

I wonder how much Tenet knows? And what about the Special Prosecutor in the Plame matter? This is going to be very, very interesting!

I'm anxious to hear what Kerry/Edwards say out it all...

how much power the person had. If it can be proved they influenced policy that would be quite damning. Also when did they infiltrate? Hopefully it was not during the Clinton years, then they could say that Clinton let the spy in and that Tenet (Clinton's guy) never figured out a spy was in there but once they got rid of Clinton's guy that they were able to get the spy. Don't underestimate the power of the Bushies to turn this to their advantage. Poppy Bush was head of the CIA he knows the ropes. I will eagerly await this turning on them, but am pessimistic.