If Palin is covering up her daughter's pregnancy I have no problem with that

It happens all the time, and its a very admirable thing for a mother to do for ehr daughter. I say we should leave this thing alone and attack her for her wacko religious/poltical views and her lie about teh Bridge to Nowhere.

What's alleged against her regarding the baby is (at worst) nothing more than a family sticking together. And there's nothing wrong with that.

If we persist in this "scandal," we are going to create so much sympathy for her that we won't be able to attack her on legitimate issues.

Plus, as I said before, this is akin to "outing" an adopted baby. And that's not right.

YIKES

However the OP doesn't come even moderately close to the paranoia and mouth-frothing Roveness of people actually buy into this fact-free "mommy-swap" delusion.

worth of care over its lifetime and if it belonged to the daughter, it most likely would not be covered under the family's policy.

No one knows right now what is up with this story.

But if it pans out that this is a cover up than I have to say I think you are off base. This demonstrates a deception of great magnitude. No one is outing the baby. This is about the veracity of a vice-presidential candidate.

I am just going to see what happens. When this story is covered by Josh Marshall then we know it has substance.

way or the other about the pregnancy issue.

Palin is unqualified for the VP job, plain and simple.

Heck, she doesn't even know anything about the job.

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....potential social security and IRS fraud?????....THAT'S OK with you!!!!....The Pukes have had a hay day with the Edwards baby thing.

If she is providing cover and breaking the law in the mean time it becomes an issue that must be brought to the table.

Jack Nicholson and Bobby Darin. Both were told that their grandmothers were their moms and the real moms were their older sisters. When they finally learned the truth, it caused a lot of heartache. Family secrets are a bitch.

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It is a lie, pure and simple. The truth matters when it comes to elected officials. Sorry, won't play. And that is terrible to do to the child--build the life around the lie. And it indicates that there is shame involved in being an unwed mother, where there is no shame.

No, it does NOT work for me, at any level, insurance aside.

stage for that lie to expose her daughter

she is campaigning on being a "real mom". that is what she is fuckin campaigning on. well, a "real mom" doesnt make up a lie and then create an environment that will pubically humiliate your daughter. i do give a shit about that

IF this story is true, it can be used as an example of what we can expect to return to if Roe v Wade is overturned and the Pill and other forms of birth control are outlawed or refused.

My mom's family had a few cases where there was a teenager giving birth out of wedlock, and the baby was adopted by relatives. All kinds of fucked up with family secrets.

If people who didn't have to grow up with family secrets had any idea of what it feels like to grow up in an environment where secrets had to be kept and protected, and if this is true there'd be no better way to state our case for rejecting conservative values.

If she chooses to raise her daughter's child as her own-fine- but she has no right to force that choice on OUR daughters or us. That is exactly what she intends to do- take away our right to make an alternate decision.

and taking a risky flight while 'in labor' after her water broke. THAT is what I can't get my head wrapped around. As a mom to four, those successive pregnancies as a rule come quicker and quicker. Who would do a high risk baby like that??? Did dad insist that baby be born in AK? WTF?

Having lived through it in my family I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Once the family lie, no matter how well the intentions are, gets out the child in question will feel great betrayal.

If it's true, the sooner the truth comes out the better.

The stigma no longer exists against teen pregnancy except in fundies minds.

away from her own daughter, possibly VIOLATED THE CIVIL RIGHTS of her own daughter by NOT allowing her daughter to make her OWN informed choice, possibly highjacked paternity rights away from the real father, perpetuated a lie about the maternity and paternity of their own grandson, possibly goaded and tricked her own staff, the doctors, nurses, techs, and even a hospital into perpetuating a lie and into PERPETRATING A FRAUD against the hospital administration, against permanent medical records, against the medical insurance company, against the state of Alaska as employers (maybe this is why she didn't take maternity leave), against the county birth records department...not to mention the mental anguish she's imposed on this underage girl by making her think she is supposed to be ashamed and telling the daughter that her "mistakes" have to be covered up...and the list goes on. Good grief, if this baby ever needs a transfusion or anything, the truth will out.

Hear me, because I'm not saying I even remotely think this thing is true, although the reports of the daughter being out of school for like 6 months with mono coiciding with the timeline is what is feeding this speculation frenzy. It's more likely that Sarah is the mother since the baby has Downs. Occam's razor and all that...

But if this rumor WERE true, that Sarah stole maternity rights away from a young woman who has reproductive rights of her own - THEN HELL FUCKING NO, this is NOT a NOBLE act of a caring mother. It's a crime, a fraud, and a SELFISH act of a manipulative control-freak.


Edited to add: Again, going on the idea that this rumor is true, which it's not, then the cover-up also says a LOT about Sarah Palin and how she handles "inconvenient truths" and perceived crises in her life -- and how important "appearances" are to her and her family. She'd rather live a lie, and make her family live a lie, and do all the work to keep up and perpetuate that lie, for the REST OF HER LIFE, than to deal openly and upfront with the issue that her daughter is pregnant and was doing the act that er...causes pregnancy.

If so, then Sarah Palin will fit in perfectly into the VP shoes before her. She's Cheney, making up stories and fixing the facts to fit the foregone conclusion that she wants!

Good grief, there are teen-mothers attending high schools all over this land, where their mothers don't feel the need to cover-up the issue.

If she was given any maternity benefits, if she lied to insurance.. Identity fraud. The doctor I'm sure would be sanctioned.

I hadn't thought about that. All I am saying it that its not a bad thing for her to raise her daughter's kid as her own. I have no idea about the details.

Lying to the public when she is in the role of governor is not admirable.

Finally, your entire premise is that Palin is doing a favor for her daughter??!! Why do you think that? There's nothing wrong with a young woman having a baby. There's something terribly wrong with her mother taking it away from her and pretending it's hers instead.