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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:04 AM
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Careful folks!!! the Palin "baby is the daughter's rumor" is like the RW attempted "Muslim rumor"
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 11:20 AM by demo dutch
It shouldn't be about the baby, it should be about the reckless decision making of Palin traveling on a plane while in labor, and not notifying the airlines and putting everyone at risk!

see discussion http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6846096&mesg_id=6846096
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:05 AM
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1. Do you know how many Americans still believe the Muslim rumor?
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:05 AM
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2. Do you know how many retards still believe the Muslim rumor?
This whole thing is illusion....to win the battle you must win the illusion...... not the truth !!!!!!!!!
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:07 AM
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3. I know, rediculous & the baby thing is prime stuff for the Natl. Inquirer
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 11:13 AM by demo dutch
So le the natl. Inquirer do it's job and the talk show hosts as well, meanwhile us politicos shoud stick to the lack of judgement and recklessness (in in my view)
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:14 AM
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10. Agreed.....but we also need to be aware that the opponent has
mastered the art of creating a separate reality and expanding on it every day. Elections are not a search for truth. They never have been. Think Professional Wrestling.
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:30 PM
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30. "retards" is so offensive.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:07 AM
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4. To me, it's roughly the character equivalent of Mittens tying his dog to the roof of his car--
a very stupid, almost cruel decision that showcases his decision-making skills and priorities. Except Palin was jeopardizing the health of her baby, her own health, and the safety of the flight crew and passengers. Plus, she was dishonest.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:08 AM
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5. Nice synchronicity!
Nice synchronicity posters #1 and #2! :)
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Riddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:09 AM
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6. This whole baby thing has the stench of KKKarl Rove all over it
Blow it out of proportion with rumors and innuendo, then they'll provide the "proof" there was nothing to it, and the dems will look as foolish as they did with the Dan Rather report 4 years ago.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:12 AM
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8. the baby thing is prime stuff for the Natl. Inquirer so let them, the Natl
Inquirer do it's job and the talk show hosts as well, meanwhile us politicos shoud stick to the lack of judgement and recklessness of her travel while in labor putting everyone at risk (in my view)
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:32 AM
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20. Or for crying out loud.
DU doesn't represent the official Obama campaign's position, last I checked.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:19 AM
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13. Yup. Can you say AWOL memos? Rove's paw prints all over it.
This is a Bouncing Betty rumor. Mark it, but for the love of God don't step on it.

Palin has more than enough garbage in her political life to keep us busy.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:53 PM
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31. Agreed. We shouldn't be spreading rumours.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:12 AM
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The "baby is not hers" thing has the potential for a huge backlash making many look really stupid.
We've reached a pretty sad level when as Democrats we make a mother prove her baby is really hers. I agree with questioning her judgement by traveling on a plane while being that pregnant is legitimate.
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Konza Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:25 PM
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27. Looking stupid has never stopped us before!
This Palin babygate makes me disgusted with some of my fellow Democrats.
They are on the same level as the Obama is a gay muslim crack smoker types.
A pox on all their houses.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:28 PM
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28. Agreed. n/t
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:12 AM
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7. Even if it is true, it won't be a negative.
Most people will look at it as her protecting her family. There may be a handful that sees the dishonesty aspect, but most will find that unrelated to anything outside the family. I don't think it would backfire to investigate it, but it won't be of any consequence. It will hurt to claim it is true before there is some hard evidence though.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:14 AM
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11. right but the reckless decision making on her part is what I'm focused on
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:19 AM
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14. The state trooper thing might be illustrative of that point.
She is a negative for mcsame now, lets be careful we don't create any sympathy for her.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:30 AM
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18. Exactly. She's already imploding. nt
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:13 AM
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9. No, it shouldn't be about the baby. It should be about abuse of power.
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 11:17 AM by zanne
The investigation into the governor possibly abusing her power to fire her former brother-in-law will probably go away now, seeing that a guilty verdict would harm the Republican ticket, but I think that gives us some insigiht into her character. I know that some people will disapprove of my choice of words here, but when you see "white trash" in the dictionary, Palin's family picture is right beside it.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:15 AM
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12. It should be about the reckless decision regarding her 11 hr trip while in labor
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 11:15 AM by demo dutch
putting everyone at risk
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:20 AM
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15. But that's still a soap opera, and it could very well backfire on us.
Also, the Republicans would probably see that as "a tough lady, not letting a little thing like labor" get in her way. We know these people by now; we should realize that they think "differently".
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:28 AM
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16. Don't care about the RWGop-ers they vote this ticket regardless, I care about how Independs & hockey
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 11:28 AM by demo dutch
mom look at this issue!
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:29 AM
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17. Sorry, but the National Enquirer does better research than the MSM
John Edwards.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:31 AM
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19. Careful!
Idle chatter on our obscure website will bring down the campaign! We control the agenda. Use our awesome power wisely!
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:34 AM
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21. Exactly.
DU just has that much power.
For real.
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ChangestartswithUS Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 01:31 PM
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35. Agree. We can't be the pot calling the kettle black
If we are going to whine and gnash our teeth over Republican comments about Obama, we need to be sure that we aren't the proverbial pots calling the kettles black.

Ask yourself: If I ran for office today, how much of my life would be open to attack, misrepresentation or misinterpretation? Few of us could escape scurrilous attacks that had a ring of truth due to some misstep in our past or an affiliation or friendship that turned out to be ill advised.

Let's let the facts do the work and refrain from unfounded attacks. If she was indeed not pregnant, it will be discovered. Until then, let us take the high road.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:35 AM
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22. You mean that Muslim rumor that millions of Americans STILL believe is true?
hit her with everything. EVERYTHING. I'm sick of "taking the high road" and "being careful" during our campaigns. Slam them with absolutely everything that may even have a SHRED of truth to it-and if something turns out not to be true? then just take a page out of the Rove playbook and blame it on the opposition. No more playing nice. Grind them into dust.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:36 AM
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23. Some astounding number like 10 -1 2%. . . WE could use the margin.. . n/t
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liberalpress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:48 AM
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25. There is only one problem
and it is the one everyone is overlooking. Even if the baby rumor turns out to be true, Republicans still won't believe it because it is being said about a Republican. It would alrady be a fact out in the MSM if it were being said about a Dnovrat. You could have proof, papers, sworn testimony. TNEY WON'T BELIEVE IT. PERIOD.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 02:24 PM
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36. Are repugs the only ones voting? independents outnumber them, and so do
Democrats. Fuck the Republican base; when will we ever understand that WE DON'T NEED THEM! We just need our OWN base and a larger portion of independents to win. Hell, if every registered Dem voted we wouldn't even need the independents!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 11:37 AM
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24. That woman that delivered Sarah Palin's "baby" was appointed to a state position by Palin
Edited on Sun Aug-31-08 11:37 AM by IndianaGreen
Sounds really fishy, of a payoff to cover up a daughter's pregnancy, and to elicit support for Sarah's political ambitions.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:00 PM
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26. The muslim innuendos worked very well.... just saying
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 12:29 PM
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29. If it creates doubt about her, so be it.
I'm not all that convinced about the rumors, but it's interesting to see how the MSM is starting to pick it up and sow the seeds of doubt in narrow minded voters.
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madura Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 01:00 PM
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32. o cripes, is that the rumor going around?
petty people! omg, there is plenty more to diss her with than that lame one.
:(
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 01:01 PM
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33. I don't care about Palin's family. That's her business.
I do care, however, about the fact that she thinks her experience as a hockey mom and member of the PTA qualifies her to be the FUCKING VICE PRESIDENT.
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ChangestartswithUS Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-08 01:18 PM
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34. Actually, it's not the same at all but does it matter?
If, indeed, Sarah Palin faked a pregnancy, whether to protect her career or her daughter, I would be concerned about her judgment. However, it wouldn't be the first time a mother protected a daughter. How we, as democrats, deal with this says a lot about who we are. However, it is NOT the same as the rumors about Barack Obama's religious affiliation.

The Sarah Palin story certainly has more legs than the allegations that Obama is Muslim. Palin was apparently not even showing what would be a 4 month bump at 7 months and her daughter was taken out of school for 5 to 8 months - an unheard of amount of time for mononucleosis. ll

There is nothing in Obama's background that would indicate he had ever been an adherent to the Muslim religion. Going to a school, as a child, that had Muslim children as well as Christians, does not make him a practicing Muslim. He has been a Christian his whole life.

I think Barack Obama showed some questionable judgment in several of his friendships and business alliances (no, it isn't heretical to say this if you are a Democrat) but he's still my choice for President. None of our candidates are perfect. Let's admit that and concentrate on the issues that are really important.

If we start throwing mud at Sarah Palin, should this story truly have legs, we would have to retroactively excuse every Republican who threw mud at Bill Clinton (for much worse behavior) and Barack Obama.

Let's stay out of the mud and on track. Focus on issues.


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