Here is why Sarah's 5th pregnancy matters

No matter who gave birth to Trig, there are many problems with the things Sarah has done.

1. If the child is her daughters, it is ridiculous at best & downright abusive at worst, to force your child to hide a pregnancy. This is not the 50's. The only reason Sarah would do this is to protect her own ass.
Her own DUMB ass that is against sex education. She believes in abstinence only. No matter WHOSE child that is, the fact is that at the very least her other daughter is now pregnant. This means that
her ABSTINENCE ONLY plan didn't work out so well. Would this be a time for her to learn from experience & realize that sex education is a NECESSITY? Of course not.

2. If the child is HERS... frankly, it's even worse. She says she knew from the amnio at 13 weeks that Trig would have Downs Syndrome. Factoring this in, along with age, how responsible was it to fly to Texas when she was 36 weeks pregnant? How responsible was it, that when her water broke, she decided to stay in Texas at the conference she was attending, GIVE A SPEECH and then FLY HOME TO ALASKA? On a flight that included a layover. Upon landing in Alaska, she chose not to go to the closest hospital. Instead, they drove 45 minutes to the hospital closer to their home. What kind of HUMAN BEING does that?!?!?!?!?! She took a maternity leave of THREE DAYS. That's right, 3 days. There is no job in this country that could legally demand your return in 3 days. It's completely unheard of and totally unhealthy. It points to a lack of care and concern for her son. What mother decides that going to work 3 days later is more important than bonding with her child?????


All of the above points to what kind of person Sarah is. She seems ridiculously shallow & uneven at best. How about the fact that she DID NOT DISCUSS WITH HER FAMILY the ramifications of her accepting the VP nod from McCain??? She told her parents to listen to the radio for a special announcement... and told her son to watch the TV.

Her parenting is atrocious. She only cares about herself. I wouldn't put her second in command at the SPCA, much less my country. She is clearly not operating with a full deck & is selfish to the hilt.

As for the silly fundies and freepers that are behind her 100%.... I can't help but :eyes: at those IDIOTS! This woman does not promote family values! She puts HER ambition above that of her family time and again.
She didn't even have the common decency to let her children know she was about to throw their entire family into chaos. Do some research. I guarantee that EVERY SINGLE OTHER CANDIDATE EVER has told a story about how they consulted with their family first. These decisions affect lives. You go from being a private citizen to having secret service protection. It is a HUGE change! Did she prepare her family for this? NO.


Add all of that in to her complete lack of competence and experience & you have what we call a total cluster f*ck.

just have been exhaustively covered for the last two days choking out everything else.

Why would a woman in this day and age treat her daughter with such shame and hide her once she became pregnant. Sarah was also circumventing her responsibility to educate her daughter by pulling her out of school. Where I live if your child does not show up for school the parent can be arrested.

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It is an apt description but sounds like a drug bust gone wrong.

age?

link??????

Family funeral this week. What has happened?

there is one that has more than 500 replies should be easy to find

And that they're covering up a teenage pregnancy.

Though it seems ridiculous at first blush, there's some seriously odd things about the story. Palin didn't say she was pregnant until supposedly 7 months along; she returned to work 3 days after allegedly having the kid; and claimed that her water broke at 4 AM, while she was in Texas, then she stayed to give a speech at noon, before flying back to Alaska on a commercial plane. That last is either the most indefensibly dangerous and irresponsible behavior you could ever imagine from someone pregnant with a known special-needs baby going into premature labor, or it's a really really bad lie.

Also, there's photos of her supposedly 7 months pregnant looking perfectly normal; her 16 year old daughter was pulled out of school for 5 months before the birth, claiming a really bad case of mono; and the hospital records don't reflect Trig Palin having been born where and when they said he was.

they'll buy cheat and steal a "win" if the can, but in light of all of the crossover and a new Grassroots' movement built primarily around issues, Republicans have decided that Task #1 is to identify and later insure their most reliable base. Pallin will be an insult to both non-aligned Men and Women. IMHO, Identifying and solidifying their base is the only thing that explains this crappy VP pick.

I read a lot of the threads but no one reads them all

I hadn't seen a summary this good before

Yup yup, family values!

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at first i thought it was just petty rumor gossip stuff , but dont look like that now.

i feel really bad for the daughter most of all. it must have been awful to tell her stick up the ass parents that she was pregnant.

I'm with you, but there are quite a lot out there who do not grasp the difference between men and women and think that both are exactly the same when it comes to L&D and post-partum behavior. Apparently the sheer physical trauma of childbirth (however natural...and I've been through it three times without so much as an aspirin so don't preach to me) is lost on many people.

While I hold both parents to the same standard concerning the overall raising of their children, the first years are biologically and psychologically weighted towards the mother. You just cannot argue that with a straight face.

I find her description of the 72 hours surrounding the birth of Trig suspicious to say the least.

and do 4 days for a C-Section.

I'll assume she delivered vaginally. Even WITHOUT an episiotomy, your still pretty uncomfortable afterwards. A normal person would need at least a week to feel normal?

Not this crazy bitch. Throw the kid to a nanny or a grandparent- she's got an ego to keep going!

although i find this whole line of discussion quite revolting, the least we could do is rise above the slime, and not call her a bitch. really.

i didn't see the thread, so, whatever.
but really, do we have no standards here? i am sick to see us wallowing in the gutter with this shit. we don't want them to be the mommy police, but we feel free to be? :puke:

how i wish we could live up to the example set by our candidate.

We had an amnio because my wife was 35 when we had our daughter and we wanted to know if there were serious genetic issues with the baby. Fortunately, there were none, but if there were, we probably would have opted to terminate the pregnancy.

take the risk of having the amnio?

Doesn't make sense to me.

Kudos to both of you on this one.

She DID take action based on the amnio results.

Put two and two together here.

There are folks who don't seem to be able to figure out:

1. Why did she get the amnio done?

and

2. Why did she take such a risk with the delivery?

Those two questions answer each other.

were finally able to force the daughter to do so. When the evidence of DS became apparent, they backed out of the arrangement.
Thus necessitating the announcement of Palin's "surprise pregnancy"
It is very feasible and explains the holes and inconsistencies in Palin's ridiculous story.

Now where's my bridge? I hear there are some billy goats approaching...oh my!!! :sarcasm:

I WHOLEHEARTLY AGREE with what you've posted...beautifully written and it covers the essence of what should be the focus.

This goes to the judgement question...the one Camp Gramps hammered Senator Obama on for weeks on end, now the shoe is on the other foot and in a way that matters to all of us if this lady ends up one 72 year old heartbeat away from the nuclear football.

I wish we didn't have to bring families and private lives into the political discourse, but it's now become a bloodsport...and the GOOP hammered us "dirty fuckin' hippies" for our "lifestyles"...while their hypocrisies went un-noticed or pasted over. They started this fight, all we're doing is using their yardstick.

Kudos to your post. Kicked, Recommended and I wish I could I could put a big Gold Star next to it.

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Well stated!

And what you say is spot-on.

WTF kind of priorities does she have when a speech takes precedence over the safe delivery of her baby? This is "culture of life"?
If ImPalin had no qualms about taking a 10 hour flight and risking the lives of her baby and herself, regardless of the fact that she'd leave motherless children behind; what does that say about her willingness to sacrifice innocent lives for whatever frivolous notion pops into her potential presidency?

Do people really want this nutcase to lead them in the event of McSame's passing while in office?

I'm thinking they'd much prefer someone with a little common sense.

these idiots are just gulping down idiot-aid 24/7.

and they won't all be registered rethugs, either.

But I think most people have had enough bullshit.

a running mate and after. The choice of Palin only made it EVEN MORE VITAL to ensure an Obama/Biden victory.

The very idea of that idiot assuming the Presidency is SO HORRIFYING, I cant even wrap my mind around it.

that they CLEARLY do NOT want anyone with common sense anywhere near them.

That's how fucked up this is.

...and rather than go to a Texan neonatal ICU, she waits for a plane to Alaska, lands in Anchorage, then avoids the Anchorage facilities in favor of a hometown hospital and further delay?

If this timeline is accurate, it argues for a profound depth of denial and irresponsibility incompatible with political service.

No doubt about it. And as far as her not showing - I'm calling BS on that. A woman's first maybe, her second more noticeable, her third, no hiding it past the Fourth month, 4th & 5th - the pregnancy starts showing right away. Not scientific but my observation made of family and friends. Also she doesn't appear all that tall, so they baby is confined to a smaller area - so there's more protrusion of the stomach.

And as far as this proving she's "tough as nails" - BS! If this indeed happened it should be described as Foolish. She's 40+ and is carrying a child with a syndrome - this is a medical condition that could be dangerous for both mother and child. This baby could have every condition (including heart defect) of Down, and these conditions can be very severe. Babies with Down Syndrome can have all or some of the syndrome, with varying severity.

As a side note - I believe the fact that Palin has 5 children, and is not home raising them is going to be McCain's biggest problem.

This pregnancy wasn't anything like her others because she was carrying a SPECIAL NEEDS CHILD.
She CHOSE to IGNORE this childs SPECIAL NEEDS and put her own egotistic needs first.

She. Is. CRAZY.

any record of her falling down the stairs a LOT during the months beforehand?

And it was not an angle I had thought of.

Yet you are both right. Her actions were not those of a woman who wanted to nurture her child & keep everything as healthy as possible. Perhaps this is why she
did not reveal her pregnancy to anyone until so far in?

Her water actually broke. It's probably a white lie done for the audiences at home. She probably started labor and had some discharge, but her bag did not break until she was in the hospital.

My biggest problem with her not being pregnant theory is that the media would have already been on this. You have to remember, that being governor, the media follow her in the capitol. The governor's meeting she attended had media present as well. Why aren't anyone who actually KNOWS her (even Alaskan Dems) not pushing this story?

Trying to answer this makes the story more and more complex - she was faking pregnancy, etc. (If so, then why would she not make a bigger deal about it?).

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Just to make this seem heroic. A silly lie from a silly woman.

The abuse of power and immaturity, total unpreparedness, is the real story.

So I assume, since she doesn't know what the job entails.

LOL

Since you asked, I'll tell you.

The kind of human being who does that is one who would have preferred an abortion but was painted into her own political corner on the issue, and so the risk of "complications during delivery" was a risk worth taking.

Absolutely fucking chilling.

It seems to answer two questions at the same time.

It was a leak, she was not in labor, and they induced labor when she arrived in Alaska.