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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:53 AM
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WaPo: McCain suffers from political incoherence
The McCain Paradox
Americans know the man better than they understand where he would lead the country

LAST WEEK, the Democrats faced the task of presenting a relative newcomer to politics as their nominee for president. This week, the Republicans face a different challenge, one greatly complicated now by the anticipated arrival of Hurricane Gustav on the Gulf Coast. After a long career of public service, and on his second presidential campaign, John McCain is a familiar figure to many Americans. But where he would lead the nation is less clear to many, and his vice presidential selection last week didn't help.

...In the half year since clinching, however, Mr. McCain has failed to offer a fully coherent case for his presidential bid. Reformer, fiscal hawk, outsider, insider, values candidate, wartime leader -- he has tried on each of these. He has offered specific proposals -- corporate tax cuts, offshore drilling, League of Democracies -- but has yet to assemble them into a framework of priorities. Having at one time opposed President Bush's tax cuts in part because of their unfairness, Mr. McCain doubled down on them, with scant concern for inequality or fiscal responsibility. His last-minute choice of a woman he barely knows to be his running mate underscored concerns about his impulsiveness, and her utter lack of experience in world affairs undermined his claimed seriousness about national security.

One reason for the incoherence undoubtedly is that Mr. McCain has the misfortune to share party membership with a deeply unpopular incumbent. Asserting independence without offending the dwindling band of Mr. Bush's loyalists hasn't been easy. But at the convention, Mr. McCain has to draw a line. Does he offer "four more years," as the Democrats allege? If not, how will he change course?

Over the course of his career, Mr. McCain has broken with his party and even risked his political future in the service of principle. Campaign finance, climate change, immigration, the Iraq war surge, opposition to torture -- given how few contemporary politicians can cite even one such occasion of risk-taking, Mr. McCain's list has to win admiration. But to win votes in November, being admirable is not enough. Mr. McCain has to convince Americans that he has a vision of where he wants to lead the country, and the judgment and character to do so.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/31/AR2008083101746.html
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:55 AM
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1. 50 hours away and the storm surge is just reaching the coast
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 12:56 AM by Ichingcarpenter
of his candidacy, just wait until the category 5 hits his hometown.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:57 AM
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2. Well, Gee..Is it possible that the media is complicit by not giving the public all
the true facts about McSame?????? huh?? Is it?? Ya think??
:shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug:
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:59 AM
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4. that's crazy talk
but we are in a new era when WashPost and Faux blogs are pointing out problems in McCain's policy plans.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:57 AM
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3. You know, it doesn't matter what he says....
he won't do any of it. Except to start a war with Iran. And drill in AK. And give the tax breaks to the rich/corporations.
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:01 AM
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5. Has anyone noticed that with Palin on the ticket, his so-called "energy policy"
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 01:01 AM by eshfemme
has already devolved into what we already knew it would be, just drill and drill and drill for oil? It's really laughable that his policies are even called policies. They're all half-assed.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:04 AM
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6. Maybe the senility has truly kicked in, and he thinks he's like 35....
and about to dump his first wife, and snag Palin as his new squeeze.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:14 AM
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9. Honestly, that thought has crossed my mind frequently...
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:12 AM
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7. In Short...McLoser has fucked himself....he had the op to learn over the many years
in the Senate....unlike Joe and Obama...he hardly reads outside of neccessity...ya can see it in his discussions and thinking...that ole man supposed to be Smart.

Instead, he is like Bush...dumber than a box of nails.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:12 AM
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8. I think the Dems are starting to own "serious".
The Rs had been touting that for I don't know how long. Him running with Graham and Leiberman looked "serious" to non-political observers. His pick of Palin (and now having to appear with her) just trashed all that. McCain/Palin is now the "unserious" pick.
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:25 AM
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11. You make a very good point.
McCain has lost any 'gravitas' he might have had.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:33 AM
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12. Thanks. I saw Sullivan going on about it earlier too.
Here's his post if you can stand him:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/contra-jonah.html#more

The bloviators just can't use "serious" in terms of the McCain campaign any longer. It's lost with the Palin pick. It's just funny, those days of traveling with his pals Graham and Leiberman are long gone. It's now him and Sarah, Trig, Bristol, etc.. etc... going on about moose burgers and pta meetings.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:20 AM
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10. "Political incoherence". You can say that again. To the greatest page.
K & R
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