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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:02 AM
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Can someone tell me the whole, cited, Palin story about her water breaking and the flight back to AK
Did she fly commercial? Private jet? I was talking about it last night from what I heard from the rumor mill with my wife. She happens to be an OBGYN. She said that you would be hard pressed to find a flight that would let a woman fly after 36 weeks. She also said when she has someone call in saying their water broke, she says -"You need to get to the hospital. NOW." Just strikes me as odd, if that is the official story, that her water broke in TX, then she flew to AK. That sounds rediculous. It sounds more plausible that she flew back for the birth of her first grandchild. Flying 10+ hours while in labor sounds like a tall tale like Paul Bunyan and Babe the blue ox type shit. If you find the flight she supposedly flew back and spoke with people on it I think you find your answer as to whether or not the story is true and whether or not the child is hers.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:05 AM
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1. Here
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:07 AM
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2. Yes she flew commercial
Here is some research I did and sent out in an email:

Okay once I stopped laughing about McCain's VP choice I started to do some research. It is more than obvious she wasn't vetted, which is just amazing. Here is a good definition of vetting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vetting

First of all, she is a far right self-described "feminist". She is anti-choice, wants creationism taught in public schools, is a lifelong NRA member, doesn't believe the polar bears in Alaska are at risk, and wants to drill in ANWR. She is also a homeschooler, which puzzles me - how do you run a state and educate your kids at home at the same time?

Her political resume - she was PTA president, then ran for city council, then mayor of a town of 8000, then governor. She has been governor for about 18 months. Compare that to Biden, who has been in the US Senate for 39 years and served on and chaired the Senate Foreign Relations Committee since Palin was 5 years old.

Her husband and son are not Republicans. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12989.html That should upset more than a few GOP loyalists.

But the story that bugs me the most is the one surrounding her new baby's birth. He has down syndrome. Palin knew he was disabled before he was born. She didn't announce her pregnancy until she was 7 months along.

A month before her due date, she went to Texas for a governors conference and her water broke. She waited until the conference was over THE NEXT DAY to fly back to Alaska and have her baby.
http://www.ktuu.com/global/story.asp?s=8194634

Medical people, help me out here. When I was pregnant, my doctor told me not to travel during the last 6 weeks. I wanted to go to a family reunion in Springfield and my doctor said no way. And I had a normal pregnancy - I wasn't carrying a disabled child. A couple years ago, a woman I know who was 8 months pregnant had a death in her family and her doctor told her not only would he not let her fly to the funeral but the airlines wouldn't let her on a plane because she was within weeks of giving birth.

So I am very suspicious of the story of this disabled child's birth. But more importantly, what kind of a mother waits a day after her water breaks - when she knows she is carrying a disabled child - to get on a plane and fly 8 to 10 hours to a hospital to have her baby? And yes, babies with down syndrome do indeed often have complications at birth.

It just doesn't add up. And yes, I think it is fair to discuss this. What kind of a woman places her unborn baby at risk like this?
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:11 AM
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3. Her water didn't "break". According to the article I read, she
leaked fluid which I did for four months. As well as blood. She was in constant contact with her doctor the entire time.

Now I read antedotes about "so and so is a obgyn and says"......

I'm sure that is true. I also know that my niece talked a doctor into inducing her two and half weeks early because she was "tired of being pregnant" and she ended up with a baby that weighed less than six lbs.

Different doctors do different things. If her doctor was in contact with her and she felt it was ok, then it is none of our business.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:14 AM
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5. She talked to that doctor by phone.
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 09:21 AM by lizzy
As the official story goes, she leaked amniotic fluid. I don't know what kind of fluid you were leaking. I also have no clue as to what good would the doctor be to her if she went into active labor while thousands of feet up in the air. She also had contractions while on the plane, or so the story goes.
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/382560.html
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:30 AM
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10. As her story goes
Let's not forget we have only her word. And she has already been shown to be a liar.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:33 AM
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14. Well then, let's suponea the doc! And the nurses at the hospital!
And all the rest! Oh wait, yup they probably paid off everyone who came in contact with her for that time, right...................
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:40 AM
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17. Which part of privacy laws do you not understand?
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:32 AM
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13. I leaked the amniotic fluid (there isn't any other kind when you
are pregnant). As well as blood. LOTS of it. They never could find out why. I found out later I had an inherited disorder that caused liver trouble, and that caused very low platelets. Ergo, bleeding.

Heck I worked full time and went on vacation a week before the baby came. My doctors didn't care.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:15 AM
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6. right jean nothing was going on with the preg, just a little leakage... of course after all said
and done she gave birth the next day......

so something was up with the preg to give birth. hey like leakage=break=get you ass in the hospital
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:34 AM
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15. Sometimes. Not always. Apparently she and her doc felt
she had time, and she did, so?

I went to the hospital with my first and ended up trapped there for days. I learned my lesson with the second.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:00 AM
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20. so.... up in a plane for hours no doctor. 44, special needs, so. cavalier about baby's life
so

most all women,all doctors but this one says...... get ass in hospital. but your answer is so.

i bet you flip out if a parents spanks a child. but so.... putting baby's life at risk
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:24 AM
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8. I leaked amniotic fluid with my second baby. I was told to get to the hospital
even though I was not in labor. I took the time to shower and wash my hair and when I got to the hospital they looked at me and said "We were expecting you an hour ago!" I didn't actually go into labor until several hours later but they had admitted me and I was in a hospital bed being watched by nursing staff.

We have only Palin's word on this thing. Until I see some documentation, I will not believe that she was in contact with a doctor.

This is strange stuff...
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:01 AM
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21. i will throw in to show the ridiculous. broke on first. leak on second. hospital NOW
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 10:02 AM by seabeyond
with both

funny how every woman that has experienced had same instruction. hospital now

but then with jean and sarah it is so......
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:29 AM
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9. I leaked fluid too and was immediately hospitalized
The other important thing to remember is we have HER version of events. Her doctor is prohibited from talking about her due to privacy laws. There is no record of Twig being born at the hospital she supposedly went to. For all we know, she went to a midwife in a tent and gave birth.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:35 AM
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16. Not me, and I bled from the fourth month as well.
They watched me closely, but I continued to work.
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:59 AM
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19. big difference between continuing to work and an 11 hour flight. She was
after all in Dallas, where Parkland Hospital is located...Parkland delivers more babies than any other hosp in the nation and its NICU is the highest level. There are also 4 other NICU of that level in Dallas, plus Children's Med Center and if she happened to be over here on OUR side of the metroplex, we have 2 more NICU of that level plus a children's medical center smack between the two.

I don't really care about the "is it or isn't it her baby?" stuff although it is great fodder for a novel or movie, but the very idea of traveling like that w/o being at least seen by a doctor before getting on the plane is preposterous. Extremely poor judgement.

You were being monitored on a weekly basis by your doctor I would imagine, and I would also imagine tests were being run to determine if infections had set up or meconium had gotten in the fluid ( this is an extremely hazardous situation for the baby).

(I took a 2 hour driving trip near the end of my pregnancy for Thanksgiving dinner. My doctor did not want me to travel at ALL, and this was my first pregnancy, not my fifth so my labor would be expected to progress more slowly. After he had asked me about 6 times how many hospitals were located on the route we were taking and how far my destination was from a medical center, he finally agreed to let me go ..with reluctance. Basically there was a hospital about every 40 minutes on that route and my sister had just given birth ..her hospital was 20 minutes from her house. )
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:18 PM
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24. I went on vacation as well. I was four to five ours away from
home on an island..........it was no problem.

The thing is her pregnancy and what she does about it is none of our business and has relevance on anything.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:15 AM
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7. It does make one wonder if she cared whether the child survived.
Who was she travelling with? Did she take a doctor along on this trip? That would have been the normal thing to do.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:32 AM
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12. Normal?
I think we know enough about her by now to know she is not normal. She's a freak.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:51 AM
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18. Kay OConnor on steroids.
Re :puke: s!!!!
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:12 AM
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4. She flew commercial.
The airline personnel is quoted in one article saying they have not noticed anything unusual.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 09:32 AM
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11. we've gone on at length for 3 days now..
all the info is here..search DU or Google and you'll have enough reading to keep you busy until 2010:)
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:03 AM
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22. She sold the governor's private jet on eBay, so she had to fly commercial
Went for 2.1 million.
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shifting_sands Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 10:21 AM
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23. ????
I am laughing at the "water broke" and she continued with her speech. My water broke on two of my kids and I can promise you, I would not have stood up in front of anyone to walk, much less speak, it's a fairly messy process.

I do think it's probable that it was a leakage of her amniotic fluid and if she had been doing that all along in her pregnancy then it's possible after a discussion with her doctor he would have told her she could wait and see. Anyone who has ever really had their water break would not confuse it with amniotic fluid, but most times the water has to be broken in the hospital by the Doctor. Once it does break the docs get you to the hospital immediately. One of my kids was six weeks early when my water broke and they started inducing when I got to the hospital and told me they had to get the baby out because of the risk of infection for both of us.

I also think it's possible that the doctor told her not to fly that last four weeks and she ignored him. No one lets a pregnant woman fly in the last few weeks, in fact some airlines have laws against it. One friend of mine who flew to France the last six weeks of her pregnancy and was flying back the last three weeks of her pregnancy found herself having to deliver in France because the airlines would not let her on the plane.

I think there are more serious issues to be addressed with Ms. Palin than whether she is the mother or grandmother of this baby.
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