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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:23 AM
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IMO, leave the daughter alone
unless you think McCain and Rush were justified picking on the Clintons' then-minor daughter
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:24 AM
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1. Sorry. Her politics and wanting to control MY uterus make this fair game.
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 11:24 AM by Midlodemocrat
So, Sarah. How's abstinence only sex education working for ya?
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:24 AM
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3. the minor daughter's politics? oh really?
do tell
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:25 AM
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8. Get over yourself.
:eyes:
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:26 AM
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13. you first
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:31 AM
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25. and your post is helpful how?
what a steaming pile :puke:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:31 AM
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27. very nice - and against the rules...
"You're a pathetic little pig."

posted by hnmnf
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:32 AM
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29. Thanks Jeeves.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:33 AM
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31. that's a bit extreme of a reaction. n/t
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:27 AM
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15. the minor's politics are reflective of her over-bearing parent's.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:28 AM
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17. the mother's politics on family matters
and responsibilities make her high school daughter's pregnancy (not her daughter) absolutely relevant.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:24 AM
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2. IMO, these hypocritical right wingers need to be exposed
This is total bullshit.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:25 AM
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4. Not as long as she is a hypocrite-- sorry that makes her fair game
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Greg K Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:25 AM
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9. how is she a hypocrite?
I don't get it.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:30 AM
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23. Sarah Palin's type are all about "moral values"
Then her kid ends up going down the road of Jamie Lynn Spears. What's up with that?
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Greg K Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:07 PM
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36. Kids have minds of their own
Now if Palin wasn't so stubborn on "abstinence only" sex ed, Bristol might have taking steps to prevent this. But that's not hypocrisy on anybody's part.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:09 PM
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39. Yeah but somehow not all kids are getting knocked up at 16-17
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Greg K Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:17 PM
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44. Agree, but that doesn't make the parents hypocrites when it does happen.
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 12:18 PM by Greg K
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:31 AM
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26. What part of no sex education, hands off my womb
fundamentalism do you need to know...

Her family is not quite so pure as she would profess...

So yes, that makes her a hypocrite.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:25 AM
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5. her daughter's pregnancy won't be an issue. Obama knows it and how it could backfire.
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Greg K Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:08 PM
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37. Obama's smart
He'll be distancing himself from this stuff soon enough, probably with congratulations for the young couple.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:25 AM
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6. So this has nothing to do with how good mommy, Sarah, brings up her kids?
Gimme a break
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:26 AM
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12. It has more to do with her stance
on abstinence only sex education. Which, apparently didn't work so well.

She's a fucking hypocrite.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:25 AM
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7. Remember how Obama got trashed for calling this type of thing a mistake
They got leverage by saying Obama considered babies a bad thing....
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:26 AM
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10. just more proof that abstinence only education
does NOT work.

If Sarah weren't such a vocal opponent against women's rights, I would agree.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:26 AM
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11. They need to own their failures
On economic policy and social policy. I live in small town America. Every one of these self-righteous fundies who criticized my parenting over the years - and had their own daughters pregnant - Sarah Palin is just one more. They're wrong and they need to take ownership of their mistakes, all of them.
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:32 AM
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30. You are right, but they never will....
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Christian30 Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:28 AM
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16. Again...
I don't think Obama or Biden should comment, unless it is to congratulate the happy parents, but that doesn't stop us and the Liberal 527s from making an issue of it. And, while I do agree with other threads that say this won't alienate fundies, it will upset some of them and will seem hypocritical to many swing voters.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:36 AM
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33. exactly
I hope this gets massive play on blogs etc. but I think it would be a *bad* thing for Obama campaign to comment on. Any comment should be no more than something like "we wish the best for their family and respect the privacy of this issue".

I don't even think the 527's should touch it.
Let the noise from the blogs generate MSM stories, if they can.
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RazBerryBeret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:28 AM
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18. the court of public opinion is very powerful...
this woman wants to be in charge of MY children's education?
no way, no thanks.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:28 AM
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19. Where were you when we ALL went after Romney's dog killing son??
But what about the CHILDREN!!?!?!?!?! Give me a break.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:31 AM
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28. that must have been during the time we could hide GD:P posts
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:11 PM
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40. You can still hide posts here and everywhere on DU -- been able to since 2004
eom
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RayOfHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:28 AM
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20. I agree 100%. But tell this to her mother, who is simultaneously asking for
privacy yet dragging this young girl into the spotlight.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:29 AM
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21. I Completely agree. Our issue is with the mother, not the daughter.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:30 AM
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24. I agree. There's nothing really to say.
Let the fundies make up their minds about it!
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:33 AM
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32. I actually think her decision to have the baby is admirable
One of the things that bug me most about the anti-abortion brigade is that, so often, they're willing to break the rules when it's THEIR little girl who's pregnant. No abortions for other people's kids, just theirs, because their kids are special. And then they're back on the picket lines the next week.

At least this family is walking the walk. If she'd had an abortion, THEN there'd be a story. But this is just one of those things that happen to families (especially families who don't believe in anything other than abstinence-only sex education) all over the country every single day.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:39 AM
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34. Nobody should attack the daughter, but the bad mother with bad policies is fair game.
The family values value of this pick has just been reduced to zero.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 11:51 AM
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35. Personally, I;m attacking the INCOMPETENT boob of a mother.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:09 PM
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38. It's not the daughter, it's the Abstenance only sex education attitude of the Mother and her buddies
that is the problem, and that is absolutely fair game.

Had Chelsea gotten pregnant after her parents were running around trumpeting the virtues of birth control, she certainly would have been fair game.

But the fact is that Abstenance only sex education doesn't work. Contraceptives do.

David
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:11 PM
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41. Palin supports birth control
She is a member of the oxymoronic "Feminists for Life" that support birth control even as they seek to prohibit abortion.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:18 PM
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45. No they don't. They support only the use of Natural Family
Planning, the rhythm method.

You know the old joke. What do you call people who practice the rhythm method? Parents.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 01:45 PM
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47. Contraception, perhaps, but also Abstenance only sex-education
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/01/palin-backed-abstinence-education/

David
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:12 PM
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42. Chelsea didn't get pregnant at 17
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:17 PM
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43. And If She Had, Repugs Would Have Been All Over It
I don't understand the need some here seem to feel to defend those that want to regulate our lives.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 12:19 PM
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46. What kind of mother runs for national office, knowing it would bring
unwanted publicity to her pregnant unwed teenage daughter? Feel bad for Bristal, it's not like she had a great mom.
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minnesota_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:04 PM
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48. Daughter, yes. Her predicament, no.
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 02:06 PM by minnesota_liberal
It speaks volumes for Palin family values and the lack of choice her daughter would have if mom's anti-choice views became law.

Having said that, though, I would rather have the RepubliCons air their own dirty laundry.
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