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Christian30 Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:29 PM
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Luntz's focus group calls Palin a "gimmick!"
Another week, another Frank Luntz/AARP focus group of undecided voters--this one in Minneapolis and with some bad news for John McCain: they don't like the choice of Sarah Palin for vice president. Only one person said Palin made him more likely to vote for McCain; about half the 25-member group raised their hands when asked if Palin made them less likely to vote for McCain. They had a negative impression of Palin by a 2-1 margin...a fact that was reinforced when they were given hand-dials and asked to react to Palin's speech at her first appearance with McCain on Friday---the dials remained totally neutral as Palin went through her heart-warming(?) biography, and only blipped upwards when she said she opposed the Bridge to Nowhere--which wasn't quite the truth, as we now know.

Then there was this, from a woman named Teresa, who went to the Democratic Convention as a Hillary delegate and is leaning toward voting for McCain--obviously the target audience for the Palin pick: "His age didn't really bother me until he picked Palin. What if he dies in office and leaves us with her as President? Also she leans toward the rigid right, and I always thought he was a moderate...You know, I change my mind almost every day, but right now I"m wondering where the John McCain I really liked in 2000 went, what happened to the moderate? This John McCain has the look of someone who is being manipulated--probably by Karl Rove."


Well, there goes McCain's big gamble. FAIL! You can read the rest at Huffpost.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/01/gop-pollsters-focus-group_n_122935.html
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:39 PM
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1. I watched the rerun of that this AM on CSPAN
Even with pro-GOP Luntz trying his damnedest to slant the results of the focus group, they werent very happy with McCain.

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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:11 PM
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16. Me too. You could tell Luntz was pooping a brick.
I loved it. :)
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:44 PM
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2. FAN-FUCKING-TASTIC!
Everyone is freaking out right now because the conservative bloggers are saying that "Pregnancygate" is no big deal, and that everyone loves everything that Palin stands for.

DUH! Of course the hard-core bloggers are saying that. Frankly - what could Obama do or say to make anyone of us up and switch to vote for McCain? NOTHING. Same with them.. hell would freeze over before they'd switch and vote Obama.

But, the Indie's in the middle are our target audiance.. they can actually still be influenced. And they're the ones who aren't to happy with Palin.. and they're the ones who will like her even less when they see that she preaches one thing (Abstenince, non Sex-Ed, etc.) and has a family that doesn't follow that direction. Additionally - she has no experience.. the people in the middle are starting to figure out quickly what a bone-headed move this was.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:46 PM
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3. If one of his focus groups see the pick for what it is
The McCain campaign really messed up picking her
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:49 PM
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4. Very nice results but
could that particular Clinton supporter be LESS informed about what McCains actual record is?!?
And she went to the convention too? She should be embarrassed.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:53 PM
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5. I hate it when I like something Luntz does and then want to Recommend the thread!
K&R! :D
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 02:57 PM
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6. Good point about McCrazy's age and Palin's extreme Right Wingedness
Those who appreciate McCrazy's 'moderate' persona would be put off by her extremism ....

McCrazy loses MORE than he gains ....

The RW coalition spins downward and spirals out of control ....

Their philosophy is a LOSER ....
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:16 PM
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7. kick
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Frank Booth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:18 PM
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8. Is there actually a chance that Americans are viewing this pick as the joke it is?
Maybe I've underestimated us.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:25 PM
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9. it all boils down to how much info they get from their "news" sources;
how far the media will spin this to McCain's advantage, or whether it'll be impossible, given the widespread coverage it deserves, to ignore the story, as they can't ignore Gustav.

they'll do their best, is my guess (this weekends complete ignoring of the Bridge lies by the gasbag shows supports me there), but it might be just too much, too many chinks in her RW armor

I thought that was the case with Harken, Funeralgate, AWOL, etc., in 2000, and you saw what happened there, so don't be surprised if this all goes away

that said, I don't see how it can

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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:30 PM
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10. They very people who see Obama as exotic, also don't know what to make of Alaska.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:52 PM
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14. Right. Alaska barely beat Hawaii into the Union. n/t
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samuraiguppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:46 PM
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11. mcbush
is toast. now hurry up Obama I need healthcare and a decent job.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:49 PM
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13. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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samuraiguppy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:20 PM
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17. thanks
I am actually an old member--but have lost access to my account so I am starting over. I see lots of old familiar names---I like that !
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 03:47 PM
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12. He never was a moderate. American voters are too dumb to
Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 03:49 PM by tblue37
actually check the man's voting record. Instead, they accept whatever label the corporate media feed them.

The Hillary voters (all four of them) who consider voting for McCain out of disappoindment over the primaries and the VP pick are blind to his actual stance on the issues they care about. The Hillary voters who are voting for and working for Obama, even if they are still disappointed, are doing so because they are aware of what McCain stands for and what he would do if he got elected.

Even among Dems, there are low-information voters.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-08 07:08 PM
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15. A Gimmick is exactly the right word - one that will be as successful as "new coke"
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