I've never seen a meltdown like this before...

Drunken Irishman

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:28 PM
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I've never seen a meltdown like this before...

I mean, it's like watching a comedy of errors. This has got to be one of the biggest missteps in election history.

Did McCain even THINK before making the call and asking her to join the ticket? It was like he just went up to some random stranger on the street and said, "Hey, you, you're my VP candidate, ok?".

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skooooo

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:29 PM
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1. Wait until her affiliation with the AIP (Alaskan Independent Party)..

...hits MSM.

IT'S OVER FOR MCCAIN'S SOULMATE!

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Phx_Dem

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:43 PM
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20. I think her AIP association, along with the Troopergate

Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 06:20 PM by Phx_Dem

investigation are,so far, her biggest problems. Somehow, I don't think this quote from Palin is going to go over too well on the old campaign trial!

UPDATE: This quote was from the AIP founder, not Palin.

“I’m an Alaskan, not an American. I’ve got no use for America or her damned institutions.”

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skooooo

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:53 PM
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27. oooooh she said that??!

Wow!!!!

And she's McCain's SOULMATE!

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JBoy

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Mon Sep-01-08 06:06 PM
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31. Actually, that quote is from the AIP founder, Joe Vogler (per the link)

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pnwmom

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Mon Sep-01-08 06:18 PM
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34. Hate to quibble, but your link says it's not a Palin quote. It's a quote from

the founder of the AIP.

But there's also a video of the head of the org in 2008 claiming her as a member -- still -- and supporting her as the governor.

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Phx_Dem

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Mon Sep-01-08 06:21 PM
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36. Quibble away. You're right.

I misread it and have corrected the text. Thanks!

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redstate_democrat

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:29 PM
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2. I just signed on today and I'm trying to figure out what hit the fan since last night

I saw on HuffPo that Palin's daughter is pregnant. What else happened?

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Drunken Irishman

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:31 PM
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7. Everything.

She's linked to a group that wants Alaska to secede from the United States.

Her husband has a DWI.

She's been linked to the Bridge to Nowhere.

She's been caught using earmarks in Alaska.

It just never ends.

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redstate_democrat

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:45 PM
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21. BWAHAHA! WOW.

McCain is truly the BIGGEST LOSER ever. :rofl:

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the Sundance Kid

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:38 PM
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16. she also hired a lawyer for Troopergate

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vaberella

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:41 PM
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19. Palin is associated with a secessionist group the AIP. And...

She has a court case against her for abusing her power as Governor.

Then there's a problem with corruption in her involvement with Ted Stevens.

Plus there's the $20 million ruin she left Wasilia when she was Mayor.

I know there's another issue I can't remember. Oh and she's part of a Dominionist church which believes in rapture and all that jazz.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x379849

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6868288

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x178478

There's more..but so far what I could find.

Enjoy the read.

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redstate_democrat

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:47 PM
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23. he he he!

:D WOW. I bet there are still fundies and "conservatives", ya know, the ones with all those "family values" still supporting this Jerry Springer reject. :rofl: This ticket is a disaster.

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yourguide

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Mon Sep-01-08 06:07 PM
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33. You will love this TPM recap

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/the_palin_meltdown_in_slomo.php#comments

except they forgot to mention she ran one of Ted Stevens 527s in 2004 I think...

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pnwmom

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Mon Sep-01-08 06:20 PM
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35. Maybe you're thinking of her mass firing of the Dairy board, when she didn't

get her way on the closing of the dairy?

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vaberella

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Mon Sep-01-08 09:33 PM
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40. That's right, that's the other scandal however that's not getting the air play it deserves. n/t

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BlooInBloo

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:30 PM
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3. That's not change, my friends. That's more of the same.

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jazzjunkysue

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:47 PM
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22. The change is that it's on CNN, C-Span and MSNBC today.

And she's issuing denials and hiring lawyers.

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Tansy_Gold

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:48 PM
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24. Or more of the worse?

:shrug:

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BlooInBloo

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:49 PM
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26. Indeed - McAssStare *is* worse than gw.

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Stephist

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:30 PM
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4. I am Starting To Think

Republicans know the mess of the world they have made and that the next President's odds of succeeding are so bad that they are throwing this election and are already looking ahead to 2012. It's the only explanation I can come up with for what they are doing.

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marlakay

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:31 PM
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5. i heard he was forced into it by the envangicals

dobson and them. That when they wouldn't let him pick lieberman he just said sarah and that was it. I think they just knew the basics about her and didn't know about her daughter at all and its my opinion she didn't tell him. I don't think she thought she would get picked.

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Thrill

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:31 PM
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6. Lawrence O'donnell said it was a desperation pick

I heard him on the radio today. No vetting or anything. They just had to do something to keep people from talking about Obama's amazing speech. McCain wanted Lieberman.

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Mme. Defarge

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:33 PM
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13. Indeed - n/t

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Guaranteed

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Mon Sep-01-08 06:04 PM
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30. And if they drop her and pick Lieberman now, the RWers will be PISSED. nt

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ChimpersMcSmirkers

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:32 PM
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8. I'm lovin' it!

All of this happening during the RNC is the icing on the cake.

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npincus

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:32 PM
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9. Is that just our perspective... went to FR and they've closed ranks...

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Drunken Irishman

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:32 PM
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10. Of course the base will do that.

It's not them who matter, remember, they still rally behind Bush.

It's the other 90% of the country that matters and this isn't going to look good at all.

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TwilightGardener

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:35 PM
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15. FR is delusional, though. They really thought Fred Thompson was

going to be the runaway landslide winner of the GOPer nom and the White House--they ignored his cancer, and the fact that he is a lazy fuck with no real desire to be Preznit. And he bombed, big time. They don't see reality.

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fascisthunter

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:32 PM
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11. His Pick was Not His Pick but What Big Money Told Him to Do

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JVS

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:33 PM
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12. I can't believe he wasn't preparing a good ticket while we were busy with primaries.

Edited on Mon Sep-01-08 05:33 PM by JVS

They could have written the scripts to two possible campaigns contingent on our outcome during that period of time!

And done the fucking vetting!

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Willo

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:49 PM
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25. They were too busy firing lobbyists from the campaign,

trying to teach McCain economics, etc., hiding his medical records, etc.

No time for the little stuff like VPs and vettin'.

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sandnsea

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:35 PM
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14. They don't know these people exist

It just flat doesn't occur to them that people actually live their lives according to these crazy standards the churches shove out there. God knows the ministers and politicians don't.

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gizmo1979

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:39 PM
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17. What do you mean

She was head of the PTA.If that's not all you need I don't know what is.

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C_U_L8R

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:39 PM
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18. I wonder if they'll nominate someone else on Thursday

Some of them must be thinking... ANYBODY BUT McCAIN

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aint_no_life_nowhere

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Mon Sep-01-08 05:58 PM
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28. I didn't know this, but John McCain has a big gambling addiction

This article in The New Republic mentions it. McCain is an uncontrollable gambling fool, apparently. His aides have been tryng to keep that addiction under wraps during the campaign. McCain was probably jonesing to lay down a big bet and that's when the long shot Sarah Palin suddenly came to mind.

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_stump/archive/2008/07/06/john-mccain-s-gambling-problem.aspx

"...In the past decade, has played on Mississippi riverboats, on Indian land, in Caribbean craps pits and along the length of the Las Vegas Strip. Back in 2005 he joined a group of journalists at a magazine-industry conference in Puerto Rico, offering betting strategy on request. "Enjoying craps opens up a window on a central thread constant in John's life," says John Weaver, McCain's former chief strategist, who followed him to many a casino. "Taking a chance, playing against the odds." Aides say McCain tends to play for a few thousand dollars at a time and avoids taking markers, or loans, from the casinos, which he has helped regulate in Congress. "He never, ever plays on the house," says Mark Salter, a McCain adviser. The goal, say several people familiar with his habit, is never financial. He loves the thrill of winning and the camaraderie at the table.

Only recently have McCain's aides urged him to pull back from the pastime. In the heat of the G.O.P. primary fight last spring, he announced on a visit to the Vegas Strip that he was going to the casino floor. When his aides stopped him, fearing a public relations disaster, McCain suggested that they ask the casino to take a craps table to a private room, a high-roller privilege McCain had indulged in before. His aides, with alarm bells ringing, refused again, according to two accounts of the discussion.

"He clearly knows that this is on the borderline of what is acceptable for him to be doing," says a Republican who has watched McCain play. "And he just sort of revels in it." ..."

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Arugula Latte

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Mon Sep-01-08 06:06 PM
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32. No way! This just keeps getting better and better...

And by "better and better" I mean sleazy, tawdry, hypocritical, deviant, and just so fucking entertaining! :rofl:

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Hamlette

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Mon Sep-01-08 06:00 PM
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29. He heard "extremely popular governor" and "anti- abortion born again" and that's all he needed to

know

My friends in Alaska are saying "of course she's popular, we profit when oil goes up." Every resident of Alaska gets a windfall profit check from oil. It's bigger this year than ever before and state revenue from oil has balanced the budget.

It's not like she's a rocket scientist. Right time, right place.

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Window

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Mon Sep-01-08 06:26 PM
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37. Ain't that the truth...and they deserve every bit of it.

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coalition_unwilling

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Mon Sep-01-08 07:04 PM
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38. I was only 13 in 1972, when

McGovern dumped Eagleton (after saying he supported Eagleton "1000 per cent"). From what I recall, that took several days to unwind.

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Major Hogwash

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Mon Sep-01-08 07:07 PM
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39. It's just like Laurel and Hardy!! McCain is scratching the top of his head the same way Stan did!!

He looks like he is going to cry like him, too.

LoL

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